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mexicanyella · 11-05-2009, 01:18 PM

FP, what kind of shape was the stock pipe in? Have you ever considered doing some stealth surgery on that? Most people would figure it was way too much of a pain in the ass, but if you like to gas weld, and don't mind a painted pipe when you're done...you could probably cut the stock headpipe off, trim the opening at the front of the muffler back a bit and graft in a larger headpipe, and maybe open up the muffler on the back side and do some internal baffle retooling and close it back up.

Hell, with your multi-carbed Hemi craziness you probably know someone who could do some crazy ceramic header coating on the thing too.

I spent most of a weekend making pipes for my old GT triple out of some discarded 125 MX pipes. Everyone said it was a waste of time and it did take some fiddling and trimming and fitting and head-scratching, but the end result didn't look any dumber than the stock 3-into-4 rig and it sure ran great. The pipes outlasted the bike, too; nary a crack after lots of abuse. I also reconstructed the headpipe and lead-in to the divergent cone on my YZ490 after the former owner laid it down and ovaled the hell out of the pipe. I tried brazing that one, which cracked pretty quickly, but then I grew a pair and oxyacetylene welded it and it held for several years, as long as I kept the bike anyway. Used a cut-up Kawasaki F-something 350 pipe's bends, turned this way and that. My point is if you're careful and fit the pieces right first, the welding isn't too hard to do, and with oxyacetylene it's easy to fill in blow-throughs. Just use a small tip. Might be interesting to try since the CL pipe is sort of a cool cigar-looking deal...

As technically wrong as it is, I used steel coathanger wire as welding rod on the YZ pipe, because a) it was free; and b) it melts quickly and blends into the puddle smoothly, so you don't run as high a risk of melting back the edges of thin expansion chamber steel. And apparently it doesn't get too brittle as the weld cools, thankfully.

nickypoo · 11-05-2009, 01:21 PM

the bike looks great! i want a cl sooooooo bad

Blackwoodz · 11-05-2009, 01:30 PM

The PP classic pipe would be an easy pipe to retro fit on to it I am sure...I can mig a new hanger bracket if you need it.

firepower354 · 11-05-2009, 02:01 PM

Stock pipe was missing, Classic too small if I add any cubes. I'll try the TB (Z50 pipe seemed very nice) first, then order some mandrel bends if it doesn't suit me.

Blackwoodz · 11-05-2009, 02:09 PM

Remember that it not a drag strip hot rodder...

...but a nice neighborhood cruiser
The classic pipe was designed for a 125 so should flow descent enough....you can always keep the FMF for that Saturday night street rodding.

firepower354 · 11-05-2009, 02:14 PM

Sure thing, Gramps

Blackwoodz · 11-05-2009, 02:44 PM

you will think gramps when my moped lays waste to your honda...

dirtbkr188 · 11-05-2009, 04:10 PM

Oh boy, a grudge match...

firepower354 · 11-05-2009, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackwoodz

you will think gramps when my moped lays waste to your honda...

Yeah, but is Medicare gonna cover those Ti clutch rollers you're gonna need to battle my busy left appendages?

Blackwoodz · 11-05-2009, 06:42 PM

well I may need a push rolling start on your ever bearing large carcass but I will wait for you at the next stop light after I've made a stop at the supermarket with this grocery toter+....

firepower354 · 11-05-2009, 07:56 PM

Keep pokin' the bear... You've seen the parts around here.lol

hydroman-420 · 11-05-2009, 08:00 PM

sounds like a good episode of pinks.

cdoublejj · 11-06-2009, 11:31 PM

Do it Terry, 192 or nastier with but, a simple turn down for the pipe so it sounds loud and angry, fearsome and full of power and speed. GRRRR!!!

nielspbr · 11-07-2009, 03:54 AM

Poor rearwheel spokes

firepower354 · 11-07-2009, 05:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdoublejj

Do it Terry, 192 or nastier with but, a simple turn down for the pipe so it sounds loud and angry, fearsome and full of power and speed. GRRRR!!!

Funny enough, I just ordered a pile of big mandrel bends, with the intention of doing a Low & Loud pipe

firepower354 · 11-07-2009, 05:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nielspbr

Poor rearwheel spokes

Pity the shocks, for they have to support my robustness even at a stop

11-05-2009, 01:18 PM	#161 (permalink)
mexicanyella El rey de los puntos Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Troy, MO Posts: 984	Re: CL70 I picked up today FP, what kind of shape was the stock pipe in? Have you ever considered doing some stealth surgery on that? Most people would figure it was way too much of a pain in the ass, but if you like to gas weld, and don't mind a painted pipe when you're done...you could probably cut the stock headpipe off, trim the opening at the front of the muffler back a bit and graft in a larger headpipe, and maybe open up the muffler on the back side and do some internal baffle retooling and close it back up. Hell, with your multi-carbed Hemi craziness you probably know someone who could do some crazy ceramic header coating on the thing too. I spent most of a weekend making pipes for my old GT triple out of some discarded 125 MX pipes. Everyone said it was a waste of time and it did take some fiddling and trimming and fitting and head-scratching, but the end result didn't look any dumber than the stock 3-into-4 rig and it sure ran great. The pipes outlasted the bike, too; nary a crack after lots of abuse. I also reconstructed the headpipe and lead-in to the divergent cone on my YZ490 after the former owner laid it down and ovaled the hell out of the pipe. I tried brazing that one, which cracked pretty quickly, but then I grew a pair and oxyacetylene welded it and it held for several years, as long as I kept the bike anyway. Used a cut-up Kawasaki F-something 350 pipe's bends, turned this way and that. My point is if you're careful and fit the pieces right first, the welding isn't too hard to do, and with oxyacetylene it's easy to fill in blow-throughs. Just use a small tip. Might be interesting to try since the CL pipe is sort of a cool cigar-looking deal... As technically wrong as it is, I used steel coathanger wire as welding rod on the YZ pipe, because a) it was free; and b) it melts quickly and blends into the puddle smoothly, so you don't run as high a risk of melting back the edges of thin expansion chamber steel. And apparently it doesn't get too brittle as the weld cools, thankfully. Last edited by mexicanyella; 11-05-2009 at 01:25 PM.

11-05-2009, 01:21 PM	#162 (permalink)
nickypoo 2nd Gear Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Glendora, SoCal Posts: 987	Re: CL70 I picked up today the bike looks great! i want a cl sooooooo bad

11-05-2009, 01:30 PM	#163 (permalink)
Blackwoodz 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: SC Michigan Posts: 3,626	Re: CL70 I picked up today The PP classic pipe would be an easy pipe to retro fit on to it I am sure...I can mig a new hanger bracket if you need it.

11-05-2009, 02:01 PM	#164 (permalink)
firepower354 Advertiser Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Flint MI Posts: 11,002 My Mood:	Re: CL70 I picked up today Stock pipe was missing, Classic too small if I add any cubes. I'll try the TB (Z50 pipe seemed very nice) first, then order some mandrel bends if it doesn't suit me. __________________ If it has my name on it I did it;) FirepowerMinis.com Custom FPM parts and engines. Parts and service for all makes. Honda Trail Bikes parts and accessories. Pitster/Piranha/Thumpstar bikes, parts, engines and accessories.

11-05-2009, 02:09 PM	#165 (permalink)
Blackwoodz 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: SC Michigan Posts: 3,626	Re: CL70 I picked up today Remember that it not a drag strip hot rodder......but a nice neighborhood cruiser The classic pipe was designed for a 125 so should flow descent enough....you can always keep the FMF for that Saturday night street rodding.

11-05-2009, 02:14 PM	#166 (permalink)
firepower354 Advertiser Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Flint MI Posts: 11,002 My Mood:	Re: CL70 I picked up today Sure thing, Gramps __________________ If it has my name on it I did it;) FirepowerMinis.com Custom FPM parts and engines. Parts and service for all makes. Honda Trail Bikes parts and accessories. Pitster/Piranha/Thumpstar bikes, parts, engines and accessories.

11-05-2009, 02:44 PM	#167 (permalink)
Blackwoodz 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: SC Michigan Posts: 3,626	Re: CL70 I picked up today you will think gramps when my moped lays waste to your honda...

11-05-2009, 04:10 PM	#168 (permalink)
dirtbkr188 3rd Gear Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,972	Re: CL70 I picked up today Oh boy, a grudge match...

11-05-2009, 06:42 PM	#170 (permalink)
Blackwoodz 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: SC Michigan Posts: 3,626	Re: CL70 I picked up today well I may need a push rolling start on your ever bearing large carcass but I will wait for you at the next stop light after I've made a stop at the supermarket with this grocery toter+....

11-05-2009, 07:56 PM	#171 (permalink)
firepower354 Advertiser Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Flint MI Posts: 11,002 My Mood:	Re: CL70 I picked up today Keep pokin' the bear... You've seen the parts around here.lol __________________ If it has my name on it I did it;) FirepowerMinis.com Custom FPM parts and engines. Parts and service for all makes. Honda Trail Bikes parts and accessories. Pitster/Piranha/Thumpstar bikes, parts, engines and accessories.

11-05-2009, 08:00 PM	#172 (permalink)
hydroman-420 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: stamford,ct Posts: 415 My Mood:	Re: CL70 I picked up today sounds like a good episode of pinks.

11-06-2009, 11:31 PM	#173 (permalink)
cdoublejj 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: St.Joe MO Posts: 1,371 My Mood:	Re: CL70 I picked up today Do it Terry, 192 or nastier with but, a simple turn down for the pipe so it sounds loud and angry, fearsome and full of power and speed. GRRRR!!!

11-07-2009, 03:54 AM	#174 (permalink)
nielspbr Euro Seagull Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Netherlands Posts: 463 My Mood:	Re: CL70 I picked up today Poor rearwheel spokes

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