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vegatron75

I'm still working on a brake light switch,. I do have the headlight wired and regulator and a tail light. I've got a switch to run either off or on for both. Pretty crude but it works. Got the headlight on hi beam

66Cooper

Here is my plan, I found my old Honda PA50 moped as a friends (its been there for 10 years) and I am using it for its wires. Honda is great! Everything is interchangeable. So what I got from the PA (which is the greatest moped ever) is:
All the wires for turns, lights, horn, batt, ing
Controls with brake switches (will only use front) that are exactly same as 80+ Z's
turns (not sure I'll use them)
Brake light (not sure too)

Plan on rocking a XR500 headlight that will match perfectly with my 84
Going to go with a digital Speedo and make a custom mount for high beam indicator as well as turn indicator. I already have an ignition switch as my motor is an XR

Not sure what I'm going to do about the stator though. Can someone take a reading of what their DIY puts out at idle and WOT.

Thanks

vegatron75

Can someone take a reading of what their DIY puts out at idle and WOT.

I'll take some tonite.

66Cooper

You the man. Thanks

vegatron75

I looked for a while and couldn't find one for less than $75-80 shipped. There's some on ebay for $30 or so but there the old style and I'm not sure they would work well.
I've got $35 in a spool of wire and I should be able to wrap 6-7 stators. I like to do stuff myself when I can, a chance to learn something new.
I had to buy a new headlight and bulb and tailight lens and bulb and a regulator.. So I was going for cheaper the better.
Nice finds though!!

vegatron75

On my multimeter which I'm not sure I've got on the right setting OR not.
13.5 at a high idle and 35-40 at about 3/4 revs not wot.
I used the setting ACV 200

66Cooper

I think want watts. Not sure how to get that though. Or maybe volts. Actually I'm not sure

s_10onbagz

I just dished out cash for three lighting coils. I paid $36 for a new (I think 60w) ricks lighting coil. Then paid $100 for a moose lighting coil, kitaco coil, and tb rev box. But then I was like time to buy lights and bought the complete Baja Designs light kit with a stator. Towilee made his own lighting coil I think. I am forced to do a lot of work to my bike so when I get a chance to buy something all ready to go on I jump on it.

hooptytank

sounds about right. a light coil is an AC generator, so its output is alternating current. depending on your meter its labeled as VAC or V~. At idle you should have around 10-15v, revving up you can see upwards of 50+ volts. This is why you need a regulator because you'll burn out all your bulbs when you go WFO. If you plan on running HIDs, you also need a rectifier to convert AC to DC. usually a reg or reg/rectifier unit can be found for under $20

You need to measure Volts. Watts are calculated from Voltage and current draw of a load like a lightbulb. for example a 60w light needs 5 A at 12V, or 4A at 15V. A multimeter won't read Watts directly. Much more info can be found if you google Ohms law and Watts formula, but here's some basic reading from the12volt.com:

Ohm's Law defines the relationships between (P) power, (E) voltage, (I) current, and (R) resistance. One ohm is the resistance value through which one volt will maintain a current of one ampere.

( I ) Current is what flows on a wire or conductor like water flowing down a river. Current flows from negative to positive on the surface of a conductor. Current is measured in (A) amperes or amps.

( E ) Voltage is the difference in electrical potential between two points in a circuit. It's the push or pressure behind current flow through a circuit, and is measured in (V) volts.

( R ) Resistance determines how much current will flow through a component. Resistors are used to control voltage and current levels. A very high resistance allows a small amount of current to flow. A very low resistance allows a large amount of current to flow. Resistance is measured in ohms.

( P ) Power is the amount of current times the voltage level at a given point measured in wattage or watts.

66Cooper

Thanks for the lesson on that. Sure it will come in handy.

Ok, so on wrapping the coil, if I am going off that picture posted on here, you start wrapping on the first unused coil counter-clockwise from the used one, right?
Leave a little extra and start wrapping for about 65 turns, then go to the next and wrap the other direction for the exact same mount. Do that till the end and then clip. Solder the starting coil wire to where indicated in pic and then ending wire where indicated. Where do you solder the wire that comes out of the engine for the lights though?

ducatilover

You got the wrapping part right. You will your wires to the same posts you soder your magnet wire. Make sure you strip the enamel on the magnet wire.

vegatron75

Here's the stator I wound. This will show you where to solder all the wires.
#1 Both of these terminals are grounds, use either one to start the windings. This is the start
#2 After your done winding all the posts end the winding on this terminal.
#3 This is where you solder your wire to run out of the motor for your lights.
Actually #2 and #3 are connected you could use either one for the end of the winding or the output for the lights.
Check out this thread for another pic.http://www.planetminis.com/f8/instru...or-100016.html

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vegatron75

"sounds about right. a light coil is an AC generator, so its output is alternating current. depending on your meter its labeled as VAC or V~. At idle you should have around 10-15v, revving up you can see upwards of 50+ volts. This is why you need a regulator because you'll burn out all your bulbs when you go WFO. If you plan on running HIDs, you also need a rectifier to convert AC to DC. usually a reg or reg/rectifier unit can be found for under $20"

After I wound the stator I did run it w/o a regulator.. Popped a few bulbs but had to see if it worked or not.haha
I did get a regulator from dratv for $20,ricky's regulator, I'm running the stock 75 z50 lights nothing fancy. But I did have to get 2 12v bulbs.

ducatilover

What type (bulb #) did you get for the front? I cant find one (12v) that matches the stock 6v. Its got that little ring around the base that keeps it in place.

66Cooper

Well, thanks a lot everyone. Again, not having it in front of me doesnt help. All the pix and chat squared me away right.
Now, to find some wire! Seems that everyone uses 18awg, right? Would 16 or 20 work?

vegatron75

I'm pretty sure it's this one.12V HEAD LIGHT BULB 12V 25W/25W (HL113)

66Cooper

Ok, so I am working on my wiring diagram and noticed that a bike that runs a battery has 4 wires coming out of the stator. Standard seems to be a Black/Red and a Blue/Yellow wire. That is for the CDI. Then you wrap it and get one more for lights. Now, where does that 4th wire come from?
Looking at the diagram, it looks like there is one lighting coil wire (coming off coils) and the other is attached to that in the stator. Does that make sense? Anyone have an idea from that?