Planet Minis

firepower354 · 08-16-2009, 08:04 AM

For the record, after busting my substantial arse yesterday on a stock Lifan 150, the 192's will NOT be test run in my little Z

My CL70 has a little more stability, even if I don't...

3-UP · 08-16-2009, 08:13 AM

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50rider340 · 08-16-2009, 08:21 AM

Terry do you have a picture of the Akunar piston that you are running there are just so many on that website.

Btw Is there a AKUNAR piston that will fit in the stock cylinder on the piranha motor but bump the compression up and which one would that be?

firepower354 · 08-16-2009, 11:39 AM

There is, but make sure you've got the timing and kick technique down, before you do it.

firepower354 · 08-16-2009, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by 3-UP

Sent another PM

Now I have TWO cranks and clutch covers to machine. No wonder my grass only gets cut three times a season.

firepower354 · 08-16-2009, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by teflonmats

i like your way of building engines firepower..
to me its that sort of buiding that makes this fun.
please some photos..

mats

It's just a matter of giving the people what they want.

After convincing them of what they want

PitRacerVince · 08-16-2009, 12:18 PM

I remember back in the day coming across 140-150 kits and was like OMG thats it thats as far as it goes w/ triple the displacement. I now c crf/klx motors reaching 300cc. wut kinda hp can u expect outta one of these monsters?

PitRacerVince · 08-16-2009, 12:20 PM

and ur gonna have to wear full moto boots w/ this too the kickback from the starter will go right through a shin bone i bet.

firepower354 · 08-16-2009, 01:25 PM

300cc??? Not here

HP is limited by airflow. It will make as much power as you can feed it.

Kicking is as easy as any 200cc motor, and requires proper technique.
I can do it barefooted

up4da4nal · 08-16-2009, 01:25 PM

so you use the older yx160 motors to do this?
how much is it to just have it done if we have the motor already

firepower354 · 08-16-2009, 01:31 PM

Old or new, same kit. Needle bearing case works best. Slingless crank needed for Lifan cover swap, or the price goes up due to extra machining.

kijen · 08-16-2009, 05:41 PM

sorry for a stupid question.....but why don't just star with the yx150 daytona, it already has the oil filter clutch cover etc....probably still to upgrade the bearings etc.......

also why could you not build a lifan 150 that big.....

the "next engne" wll probably be the 155Z with the popular clutch cover...

firepower354 · 08-16-2009, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by kijen

sorry for a stupid question.....but why don't just star with the yx150 daytona, it already has the oil filter clutch cover etc....probably still to upgrade the bearings etc.......

also why could you not build a lifan 150 that big.....

the "next engne" wll probably be the 155Z with the popular clutch cover...

The YX and Lifan 150's have the narrower stud spacing and won't take more than a 60mm bore, reliably. You can add stroke, and we do, but getting the BIG displacements takes the KLX stud pattern.

Yea, the "Greatest Latest Engine Ever" (from this point on, to be shortened to GLEE) will likely end up having the oil filter.

marley · 08-17-2009, 02:02 AM

pm sent...

sketchycheck · 08-17-2009, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Red_Baron526

I heard its posible to bore a 110 engine into a 225cc engine. Just has to be custom and problebly wont last long. lol

225cc klx sounds like a hand grenade

DEMONDAVE · 08-17-2009, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by sketchycheck

225cc klx sounds like a hand grenade

i heard slayer66 made 208 klx's that lasted , i would like to ride one for sure.

as to firepowers 192cc motors if you have ever built or paid to have built a large cc motor then you have to know this is a steal 100% of the time.
if i had a new lxr i would have one of these built asap.

keep up the good work and great pricing.

sketchycheck · 08-17-2009, 01:58 PM

oooo thats crazy an those 192's sound bada$$

cdoublejj · 08-18-2009, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by firepower354

300cc??? Not here

HP is limited by airflow. It will make as much power as you can feed it.

Kicking is as easy as any 200cc motor, and requires proper technique.
I can do it barefooted

i barefoot on my 125 i think i pulled it off but it wasn't fun i think i use my body weight more than kicking i have to work on my technique more. the last time i got quote for a 192 it was over 1k.

sdg1 · 08-18-2009, 01:51 AM

how much horse is that bad mother gunna make

firepower354 · 08-18-2009, 05:56 AM

Head and cam choice will determine the peak numbers. Bastards are fatter in the middle than me, though

08-16-2009, 08:04 AM	#21 (permalink)
firepower354 Advertiser Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Flint MI Posts: 11,002 My Mood:	Re: Firepower 192cc "Crate" Motors For the record, after busting my substantial arse yesterday on a stock Lifan 150, the 192's will NOT be test run in my little Z My CL70 has a little more stability, even if I don't... __________________ If it has my name on it I did it;) FirepowerMinis.com Custom FPM parts and engines. Parts and service for all makes. Honda Trail Bikes parts and accessories. Pitster/Piranha/Thumpstar bikes, parts, engines and accessories.

08-16-2009, 08:13 AM	#22 (permalink)
3-UP 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 763	Re: Firepower 192cc "Crate" Motors Sent another PM

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50rider340 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: CT Posts: 3,083 My Mood:	Re: Firepower 192cc "Crate" Motors Terry do you have a picture of the Akunar piston that you are running there are just so many on that website. Btw Is there a AKUNAR piston that will fit in the stock cylinder on the piranha motor but bump the compression up and which one would that be?

08-16-2009, 11:39 AM	#24 (permalink)
firepower354 Advertiser Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Flint MI Posts: 11,002 My Mood:	Re: Firepower 192cc "Crate" Motors There is, but make sure you've got the timing and kick technique down, before you do it. __________________ If it has my name on it I did it;) FirepowerMinis.com Custom FPM parts and engines. Parts and service for all makes. Honda Trail Bikes parts and accessories. Pitster/Piranha/Thumpstar bikes, parts, engines and accessories.

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PitRacerVince 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Lancaster, CA Posts: 959 My Mood:	Re: Firepower 192cc "Crate" Motors I remember back in the day coming across 140-150 kits and was like OMG thats it thats as far as it goes w/ triple the displacement. I now c crf/klx motors reaching 300cc. wut kinda hp can u expect outta one of these monsters?

08-16-2009, 12:20 PM	#28 (permalink)
PitRacerVince 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Lancaster, CA Posts: 959 My Mood:	Re: Firepower 192cc "Crate" Motors and ur gonna have to wear full moto boots w/ this too the kickback from the starter will go right through a shin bone i bet.

08-16-2009, 01:25 PM	#29 (permalink)
firepower354 Advertiser Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Flint MI Posts: 11,002 My Mood:	Re: Firepower 192cc "Crate" Motors 300cc??? Not here HP is limited by airflow. It will make as much power as you can feed it. Kicking is as easy as any 200cc motor, and requires proper technique. I can do it barefooted __________________ If it has my name on it I did it;) FirepowerMinis.com Custom FPM parts and engines. Parts and service for all makes. Honda Trail Bikes parts and accessories. Pitster/Piranha/Thumpstar bikes, parts, engines and accessories. Last edited by firepower354; 08-16-2009 at 01:27 PM.

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up4da4nal 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: killafornia Posts: 442 My Mood:	Re: Firepower 192cc "Crate" Motors so you use the older yx160 motors to do this? how much is it to just have it done if we have the motor already

08-16-2009, 01:31 PM	#31 (permalink)
firepower354 Advertiser Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Flint MI Posts: 11,002 My Mood:	Re: Firepower 192cc "Crate" Motors Old or new, same kit. Needle bearing case works best. Slingless crank needed for Lifan cover swap, or the price goes up due to extra machining. __________________ If it has my name on it I did it;) FirepowerMinis.com Custom FPM parts and engines. Parts and service for all makes. Honda Trail Bikes parts and accessories. Pitster/Piranha/Thumpstar bikes, parts, engines and accessories.

08-16-2009, 05:41 PM	#32 (permalink)
kijen PM Newbie Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 90	Re: Firepower 192cc "Crate" Motors sorry for a stupid question.....but why don't just star with the yx150 daytona, it already has the oil filter clutch cover etc....probably still to upgrade the bearings etc....... also why could you not build a lifan 150 that big..... the "next engne" wll probably be the 155Z with the popular clutch cover...

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marley 1st Gear Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: 13.N 144.E Posts: 200 My Mood:	Re: Firepower 192cc "Crate" Motors pm sent...

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sketchycheck 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: middleboro,massachusetts Posts: 1,303 My Mood:	Re: Firepower 192cc "Crate" Motors oooo thats crazy an those 192's sound bada$$

08-18-2009, 01:51 AM	#39 (permalink)
sdg1 PM Newbie Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 56	Re: Firepower 192cc "Crate" Motors how much horse is that bad mother gunna make

08-18-2009, 05:56 AM	#40 (permalink)
firepower354 Advertiser Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Flint MI Posts: 11,002 My Mood:	Re: Firepower 192cc "Crate" Motors Head and cam choice will determine the peak numbers. Bastards are fatter in the middle than me, though __________________ If it has my name on it I did it;) FirepowerMinis.com Custom FPM parts and engines. Parts and service for all makes. Honda Trail Bikes parts and accessories. Pitster/Piranha/Thumpstar bikes, parts, engines and accessories.

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