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Paxracing · 04-05-2008, 07:07 PM

I will call you tuesday . thank you

FalconMini875 · 04-05-2008, 07:08 PM

sounds good!
thanks

ShortFuseMP · 04-05-2008, 07:31 PM

great i can't wait to see what it does, is it going to be bone stock or will you guys run an FMF 4.1 since it seems that Don loves those!!

dood · 04-05-2008, 07:46 PM

being it's in a custom frame set up, I'd recommend using a KLX engine. 194 it with a TM32 carb, S35, blah blah blah, you know... the Usual stuff and some little magic dust. Real race gas and some tweaking and POWWW 25+ hp.

mattmoto441 · 04-05-2008, 08:07 PM

where would you have a billet trans made?>?

blackjer · 04-05-2008, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dood

being it's in a custom frame set up, I'd recommend using a KLX engine. 194 it with a TM32 carb, S35, blah blah blah, you know... the Usual stuff and some little magic dust. Real race gas and some tweaking and POWWW 25+ hp.

That is an option....ill be making a complete new frame for this new engine.

blackjer · 04-05-2008, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattmoto441

where would you have a billet trans made?>?

From a company who specializes in high horsepower gear boxes.

That would be an extreme measure though. It would take about 5gs up front to get it done and id have to pay for more then one.

Kurlon · 04-05-2008, 08:22 PM

If you know a shop, get the setup cost, as well as cost per unit afterwords for say, a 25 unit run. For bonus points, see if they'd be game to squeeze a 5 speed into that space.

FASTFREAK693 · 04-05-2008, 08:27 PM

If and when someone comes up with a strong close ratio gear setup for the GPX/YX engine family there going to make some $$$.

dood · 04-05-2008, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FASTFREAK693

If and when someone comes up with a strong close ratio gear setup for the GPX/YX engine family there going to make some $$$.

you'll see...

Lennart · 04-06-2008, 03:57 AM

What's a better upgrade for the yx150.
A takegawa superhead + R and a s35 cam
or a TB v2 roller rocker head (bigger intake and exhaust valves compared to a takegawa superhead + R) with a high comression pitston?

lennart

firepower354 · 04-06-2008, 05:18 AM

V2 valves are the same size. If it's for dirt, and only 150cc, I'd bet the 20 or 25 cam has more "area under the curve" and would be faster. A road racer might want the extra fraction of a horsepower the 35 has on the top and be ok with the softer midrange.

Lennart · 04-06-2008, 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by firepower354

V2 valves are the same size. If it's for dirt, and only 150cc, I'd bet the 20 or 25 cam has more "area under the curve" and would be faster. A road racer might want the extra fraction of a horsepower the 35 has on the top and be ok with the softer midrange.

On the AHP site, the valve sizes are different.
But it is for road racing, and it it must be 150cc.
But which head shall I buy?
And wich carb is better:

The 28mm D-Slide Carb Kit KLX110 Style 225 dollars

or the TB 28mm Carb Kit KLX / YX / GPX 159 dollars??

lennart

FASTFREAK693 · 04-07-2008, 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dood

you'll see...

When will I see????

magiksc · 04-07-2008, 08:53 AM

I'm putting a ported BVH onto a Lifan 150 today to see how it wakes up the motor.

mattmoto441 · 04-07-2008, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackjer

From a company who specializes in high horsepower gear boxes.

That would be an extreme measure though. It would take about 5gs up front to get it done and id have to pay for more then one.

i got that much LOL just what company?? heck i dont mind the gears as they are now i would just like a billet or hardend setup

trailpimp33 · 04-07-2008, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by mattmoto441

i got that much LOL just what company?? heck i dont mind the gears as they are now i would just like a billet or hardend setup

If you are going to invest in a custom tranny, spend wisely and get a close ratio!!! Basically make 1st a hair smaller than the current second, 2nd a hair larger than current second, 3rd is good, and 4th a bit smaller. This would give you 4 USEABLE gears, and close that gap from 2nd to 3rd and 3rd to 4th.

OH YEAH, and put me down for 2 of them!!!

Kurlon · 04-07-2008, 09:56 PM

I disagree. Given the HP output on these big builds, improve the spacing between the ratios, but keep it wide, if not wider than stock. I'd rather see a closer ratio 5 speed with a touch wider spread overall myself, that'll really let us use the full power we're capable of building up now.

magiksc · 04-08-2008, 12:49 AM

You would think with all this developement going on that we'd see more close ratio poping up.

FASTFREAK693 · 04-08-2008, 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by magiksc

You would think with all this developement going on that we'd see more close ratio poping up.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

04-05-2008, 07:07 PM	#41 (permalink)
Paxracing 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: ca Posts: 5,754 My Mood:	Re: YX 150 or New lifan 150? I will call you tuesday . thank you

04-05-2008, 07:08 PM	#42 (permalink)
FalconMini875 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Inland Empire Posts: 894	Re: YX 150 or New lifan 150? sounds good! thanks

04-05-2008, 07:31 PM	#43 (permalink)
ShortFuseMP PM Newbie Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Ontario, CALIFORNIA Posts: 44	Re: YX 150 or New lifan 150? great i can't wait to see what it does, is it going to be bone stock or will you guys run an FMF 4.1 since it seems that Don loves those!!

04-05-2008, 07:46 PM	#44 (permalink)
dood 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Washington Posts: 3,284 My Mood:	Re: YX 150 or New lifan 150? being it's in a custom frame set up, I'd recommend using a KLX engine. 194 it with a TM32 carb, S35, blah blah blah, you know... the Usual stuff and some little magic dust. Real race gas and some tweaking and POWWW 25+ hp.

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mattmoto441 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: unknown Posts: 2,114 My Mood:	Re: YX 150 or New lifan 150? where would you have a billet trans made?>?

04-05-2008, 08:22 PM	#48 (permalink)
Kurlon Super Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Windham, ME Posts: 8,403	Re: YX 150 or New lifan 150? If you know a shop, get the setup cost, as well as cost per unit afterwords for say, a 25 unit run. For bonus points, see if they'd be game to squeeze a 5 speed into that space.

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FASTFREAK693 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: LITTLE COMPTON R.I. Posts: 2,082 My Mood:	Re: YX 150 or New lifan 150? If and when someone comes up with a strong close ratio gear setup for the GPX/YX engine family there going to make some $$$.

04-06-2008, 03:57 AM	#51 (permalink)
Lennart 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 321	Re: YX 150 or New lifan 150? What's a better upgrade for the yx150. A takegawa superhead + R and a s35 cam or a TB v2 roller rocker head (bigger intake and exhaust valves compared to a takegawa superhead + R) with a high comression pitston? lennart Last edited by Lennart; 04-06-2008 at 04:58 AM.

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magiksc 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Somewhere between Heaven and Hell... Hemet/Provo Posts: 3,686 My Mood:	Re: YX 150 or New lifan 150? I'm putting a ported BVH onto a Lifan 150 today to see how it wakes up the motor.

04-07-2008, 09:56 PM	#58 (permalink)
Kurlon Super Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Windham, ME Posts: 8,403	Re: YX 150 or New lifan 150? I disagree. Given the HP output on these big builds, improve the spacing between the ratios, but keep it wide, if not wider than stock. I'd rather see a closer ratio 5 speed with a touch wider spread overall myself, that'll really let us use the full power we're capable of building up now.

04-08-2008, 12:49 AM	#59 (permalink)
magiksc 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Somewhere between Heaven and Hell... Hemet/Provo Posts: 3,686 My Mood:	Re: YX 150 or New lifan 150? You would think with all this developement going on that we'd see more close ratio poping up.

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