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Old 11-02-2008, 05:19 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Re: tb117 vs. 150gpx vs. sgr race built 146?

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honda motors are not 1 year, especially if you modify it. there warranty only covers a stock motor.
Do you warranty your chinese stuff if the customer modifies it? No?

A lousy 4 week warranty is like a warning sign flashing in big bright lights "I will break shortly after your first few rides!"

People think they are getting a good deal by being cheap and buying cheaply made stuff. The truth is.... they are buying a money trap and are ALWAYS wondering when and what is going to break. That's not much fun!
"Look at me, dad! Watch how fast I can go!.... for a minute."
"Dad, my bike is broken!"


I like rock solid reliability and the fact that I KNOW it will hold up.
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Why only 4 weeks? Why not 1 year like Honda?

I say #1. You get Honda quality/reliability along with TB reliability / and not chinese junk of any kind. Chinese stuff breaks and is cheap.


honda motors are not 1 year, especially if you modify it. there warranty only covers a stock motor.


Depends how good your dealer is really...
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Old 11-02-2008, 05:50 PM   #23 (permalink)
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the 117 is suppose to be really fast but im sure its not as fast as the other 2 just because it has much less cc's. but its gonna last longer thats for sure so id say get it. it'll be around when the others arent. while youre building the 117 source a 54mm crank and put it in and have a 124
You'll need more than a crank, you'll need longer studs, a longer cam chain, taller cylinder, and a different piston.
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Re: tb117 vs. 150gpx vs. sgr race built 146?

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Do you warranty your chinese stuff if the customer modifies it? No?

A lousy 4 week warranty is like a warning sign flashing in big bright lights "I will break shortly after your first few rides!"

People think they are getting a good deal by being cheap and buying cheaply made stuff. The truth is.... they are buying a money trap and are ALWAYS wondering when and what is going to break. That's not much fun!
"Look at me, dad! Watch how fast I can go!.... for a minute."
"Dad, my bike is broken!"


I like rock solid reliability and the fact that I KNOW it will hold up.
well all the motors in my bikes are chinese and hold up. But we all have opinions right. I dont have time to argue online but I speak from alot of experience on these chinese motors thats for sure as so does everyone else I guess. I am assuming you had a bad experience or something.

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I am assuming you had a bad experience or something.
I wouldn't leave myself open to a bad experience like that. Honda ONLY for me. I have 3 friends who have/had china bikes. They all broke. One blew up, swingarm bolt broke on another, and the other one can't get his to start.

Some china bikes are better built than others but NONE of them even come close to Honda quality and reliability.
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I wouldn't leave myself open to a bad experience like that. Honda ONLY for me. I have 3 friends who have/had china bikes. They all broke. One blew up, swingarm bolt broke on another, and the other one can't get his to start.

Some china bikes are better built than others but NONE of them even come close to Honda quality and reliability.
And I've had lots of Honda's let go on me. I've learned that the label doesn't matter, preventative maint does, and when you're racing, everything breaks eventually.
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And I've had lots of Honda's let go on me. I've learned that the label doesn't matter....
You didn't really just say that did you? Are you saying that there is a china bike(maintained of course) that is engineered and built better and is more reliable than a Honda? We all know that the chinese have spent millions and millions on research and development over the past 30 years to come up with a great bike! Oh wait.... they copy Honda but use cheap materials and they have only been been building bikes for a few years. My bad. I'd say labels DO matter... especially the one that says "Made in *****".

Hey kids, be sure to change your oil and lube your chain!
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This thread is done folks.

Kurlon - Your honda stuff blew up because you built it.
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