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fatcaaat · 04-17-2009, 06:14 AM

I have just had great success mounting a Brembo 2 pot caliper on the rear of my honda CT70. Sure, I had to fabricate a custom bracket to clear my 190mm disc, but the result was worth it.

I now come to another decision...the front brake. I am running Fastace AS02 shocks on my CT70 and currently a Tokiko dual piston caliper from an RM85. That brake is a good brake no doubt but requires me to make a mounting bracket to make it correctly centered on the disc.

Now the question...since I have to fabricate a bracket anyway, and I have another Brembo 2-pot here (the brembo 4-pot won't clear my disc and wheel combo) do you think the Brembo will be superior in longevity and braking power over the Tokiko brake?

firepower354 · 04-17-2009, 06:28 AM

Pic of the trick new rear setup?

fatcaaat · 04-17-2009, 06:34 AM

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Pic of the trick new rear setup?

I'll get a pic. I ended up not using the metal you gave me. I made a bracket out of the metal but it proved too thin and I didn't like that it was flimsy. I fabbed it out of 1/4" 6061. It was thick enough i could drill and tap mounting holes as well. It really came out good. Someday I will take it back off and polish it up and dril lots of tiny holes in it.

firepower354 · 04-17-2009, 06:43 AM

Scan the one you made, and I'll send you a piece of 1/4" you can work on in your spare time, to keep the bike in service?

fatcaaat · 04-17-2009, 06:45 AM

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Scan the one you made, and I'll send you a piece of 1/4" you can work on in your spare time, to keep the bike in service?

I have a big chuck of 1/4" so I don't need any more metal. Thanks for the offer. With my tools it took about and hour to fab this up. I really need to buy a Henrob2000 cutting torch. I could make this thing in 5 minutes if I had one of those.

The Nightrider · 04-17-2009, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by fatcaaat

I have just had great success mounting a Brembo 2 pot caliper on the rear of my honda CT70. Sure, I had to fabricate a custom bracket to clear my 190mm disc, but the result was worth it.

I now come to another decision...the front brake. I am running Fastace AS02 shocks on my CT70 and currently a Tokiko dual piston caliper from an RM85. That brake is a good brake no doubt but requires me to make a mounting bracket to make it correctly centered on the disc.

Now the question...since I have to fabricate a bracket anyway, and I have another Brembo 2-pot here (the brembo 4-pot won't clear my disc and wheel combo) do you think the Brembo will be superior in longevity and braking power over the Tokiko brake?

Brembo, Tokiko, Nissin, 2-piston, 4-piston, whatever - they're all good and any one of them can develop enough grip to easily overpower the bike with those 10 inch tires. You're more than capable of machining another bracket so may as well use whichever one cranks your tractor. Your rear brake is already massive overkill, it's not possible to fit a front brake large enough to match. If you want the cylinders to last, purge the system of every last trace of the DOT3/4 piss and replace it with DOT5.

Z · 04-17-2009, 09:43 AM

What Bob said. ^^^

Just be aware that on the knockoff brembos out of Thailand and Asia, some of the genuine Brembo parts do not fit as there are minor differences "I've been told".

Go with something you can get ongoing replacement pads and parts for.

And start posting more pictures.

fatcaaat · 04-17-2009, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Z

What Bob said. ^^^

Just be aware that on the knockoff brembos out of Thailand and Asia, some of the genuine Brembo parts do not fit as there are minor differences "I've been told".

Go with something you can get ongoing replacement pads and parts for.

And start posting more pictures.

The Brembo I am using is a takeoff from a 2003 Ducati so we should be good there. I did order up some Brembo knockoffs to see what I think of the quality compared to the originals and while the casting quality is definitely inferior, I have not determined anything else that would lead to to reason it would not make a suitable replacement.

The Goal, is to run the real Brembo's on my Green CT70 and keep the spoked wheels. These knockoff brembos will eventually be put on my Yellow CT unless I pony up and buy the Falcon Wheels I want.

big pete · 04-17-2009, 11:40 AM

^^ that's where all the fun is. I light birthday candles with a lighter and hairspray

fatcaaat · 04-17-2009, 11:51 AM

Maybe....maybe not. It is probably overkill on my green CT. It is configured for 1-up riding with a top speed of about 75mph. However, my Yellow CT is configured for 2-up riding (my wife and I do use this for 2-up) and has a top speed of at least 75mph...but is getting regeard so I predict we'll be in the 80's with that one.

Braking isn't all the important if you are running a 50mph top speed bike. My bike will cruise all day at 55-60 and top out on blasts close to 80. I want the stopping power.

Looks like the Tokiko will be going on the front because the brembo wont fit...it hits the spokes.

slimbo · 04-17-2009, 06:26 PM

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Firepower shop should have a CNC mill by the end of the year, if all goes swell. No more Sawz-All & belt sander brackets for me

Sweet. What kind of machine centers are you looking at and any control pref.? Have a cam system in mind for that rascal?

firepower354 · 04-18-2009, 04:34 AM

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Sweet. What kind of machine centers are you looking at and any control pref.? Have a cam system in mind for that rascal?

Not sure what we'll end up with, FirePops is the programmer. All I can do is read the print and work my elbows on the Series II. Might get a retrofitted Bridgeport so I don't get too scared.

Sorry for the hijack, fatz

04-17-2009, 06:14 AM	#1 (permalink)
fatcaaat 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 3,780	Brembo 2-Pot vs Tokiko Dual Piston I have just had great success mounting a Brembo 2 pot caliper on the rear of my honda CT70. Sure, I had to fabricate a custom bracket to clear my 190mm disc, but the result was worth it. I now come to another decision...the front brake. I am running Fastace AS02 shocks on my CT70 and currently a Tokiko dual piston caliper from an RM85. That brake is a good brake no doubt but requires me to make a mounting bracket to make it correctly centered on the disc. Now the question...since I have to fabricate a bracket anyway, and I have another Brembo 2-pot here (the brembo 4-pot won't clear my disc and wheel combo) do you think the Brembo will be superior in longevity and braking power over the Tokiko brake?

04-17-2009, 06:28 AM	#2 (permalink)
firepower354 Advertiser Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Flint MI Posts: 11,005 My Mood:	Re: Brembo 2-Pot vs Tokiko Dual Piston Pic of the trick new rear setup? __________________ If it has my name on it I did it;) FirepowerMinis.com Custom FPM parts and engines. Parts and service for all makes. Honda Trail Bikes parts and accessories. Pitster/Piranha/Thumpstar bikes, parts, engines and accessories.

04-17-2009, 06:43 AM	#4 (permalink)
firepower354 Advertiser Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Flint MI Posts: 11,005 My Mood:	Re: Brembo 2-Pot vs Tokiko Dual Piston Scan the one you made, and I'll send you a piece of 1/4" you can work on in your spare time, to keep the bike in service? __________________ If it has my name on it I did it;) FirepowerMinis.com Custom FPM parts and engines. Parts and service for all makes. Honda Trail Bikes parts and accessories. Pitster/Piranha/Thumpstar bikes, parts, engines and accessories.

04-17-2009, 09:43 AM	#7 (permalink)
Z 5th Gear Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: KANSAS Posts: 8,541	Re: Brembo 2-Pot vs Tokiko Dual Piston What Bob said. ^^^ Just be aware that on the knockoff brembos out of Thailand and Asia, some of the genuine Brembo parts do not fit as there are minor differences "I've been told". Go with something you can get ongoing replacement pads and parts for. And start posting more pictures.

04-17-2009, 11:40 AM	#9 (permalink)
big pete 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Norcal Posts: 866	Re: Brembo 2-Pot vs Tokiko Dual Piston ^^ that's where all the fun is. I light birthday candles with a lighter and hairspray

04-17-2009, 11:51 AM	#10 (permalink)
fatcaaat 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 3,780	Re: Brembo 2-Pot vs Tokiko Dual Piston Maybe....maybe not. It is probably overkill on my green CT. It is configured for 1-up riding with a top speed of about 75mph. However, my Yellow CT is configured for 2-up riding (my wife and I do use this for 2-up) and has a top speed of at least 75mph...but is getting regeard so I predict we'll be in the 80's with that one. Braking isn't all the important if you are running a 50mph top speed bike. My bike will cruise all day at 55-60 and top out on blasts close to 80. I want the stopping power. Looks like the Tokiko will be going on the front because the brembo wont fit...it hits the spokes.

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