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eurobeaner · 11-23-2009, 10:01 AM

OK... i have actually searched. alot of threads i have found have been older. and ive also heard that the quality has improved recently..

i know that the N-1-2-3-4 UP tranny is alright (from what ive read) and a crude but effective way of finding first.

QUESTION::

im going mod/resto to my 70h. i want a chinese engine this season. i have a LARGE chunck of change going to my car for auto x. i dont have the money or time to rebuild my engine. im looking for a 300-400 dollar engine (prefer to have cooler, carb, and all for that price)

the engines im looking at are ::::

(ALL FROM TBOLT, and add 30-50 for shipping)

LIFAN 140 ($399 without cooler)
GPX 140 ($349 with everything)
G2 140 ($309 without cooler)
Piranha 140 ($299 without cooler)

(leaning twards the GPX.)

now... ive heard that the 140's suck in general.. but have only heard this with the lifan, and that was a year ago with 1-N-2-3-4 i think.

are they all the same engine at different prices? or how does that work? does the 140 suck? ive heard numerous people say that the tranny is the suck, but they've since changed it. if so, i dont have the budget for a 150 with cooler and carb.

if this question has been answered recently, im sorry. i have been reading for a few days now.

(and for those who will ask. im keeping the stock 70 4spd for a rebuild and a BBK on down the line. i will then swap on the stock engine so i have matching numbers and throw the 140 on my spare frame. id rather have a running bike in 2 weeks than in 6-8 months)

any help will be greatly appreciated. thanks

doopsx3 · 11-23-2009, 10:10 AM

Get ahold of Terry at Firepowerminis........one, he knows just about everything you need to know about these engines..he will giv you a straight up no bull answer about stuff w/o tryn to force ya to buy sumn for the answer...then ya should just buy the engine you want from him...you will be glad ya did later

zwieblekopf · 11-23-2009, 10:42 AM

gpx, g2 and piranha are basically the same motor

Double0 · 11-23-2009, 10:45 AM

i run a G2 140 motor on my 10 inch and it has a good amount of power and has been one of the most reliable china motors ive had.

eurobeaner · 11-23-2009, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Double0

i run a G2 140 motor on my 10 inch and it has a good amount of power and has been one of the most reliable china motors ive had.

thats good to hear. you have the 4 up tranny?

i figured that when it said "TB race cam, and 160cc kit fits this engine" on all 3 of them that they would have to be similar.

i wanted to jump on the GPX kit when i saw it. 380ish with shipping for the engine, cooler, carb, wires, cdi and coil, clutch and throttle cables included. not bad for 380

T Bolt USA · 11-23-2009, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eurobeaner

thats good to hear. you have the 4 up tranny?

i figured that when it said "TB race cam, and 160cc kit fits this engine" on all 3 of them that they would have to be similar.

i wanted to jump on the GPX kit when i saw it. 380ish with shipping for the engine, cooler, carb, wires, cdi and coil, clutch and throttle cables included. not bad for 380

agreed , let me know directly if we can help you out in any way

11-23-2009, 10:01 AM	#1 (permalink)
eurobeaner PM Newbie Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11	Chinese Engine question OK... i have actually searched. alot of threads i have found have been older. and ive also heard that the quality has improved recently.. i know that the N-1-2-3-4 UP tranny is alright (from what ive read) and a crude but effective way of finding first. QUESTION:: im going mod/resto to my 70h. i want a chinese engine this season. i have a LARGE chunck of change going to my car for auto x. i dont have the money or time to rebuild my engine. im looking for a 300-400 dollar engine (prefer to have cooler, carb, and all for that price) the engines im looking at are :::: (ALL FROM TBOLT, and add 30-50 for shipping) LIFAN 140 ($399 without cooler) GPX 140 ($349 with everything) G2 140 ($309 without cooler) Piranha 140 ($299 without cooler) (leaning twards the GPX.) now... ive heard that the 140's suck in general.. but have only heard this with the lifan, and that was a year ago with 1-N-2-3-4 i think. are they all the same engine at different prices? or how does that work? does the 140 suck? ive heard numerous people say that the tranny is the suck, but they've since changed it. if so, i dont have the budget for a 150 with cooler and carb. if this question has been answered recently, im sorry. i have been reading for a few days now. (and for those who will ask. im keeping the stock 70 4spd for a rebuild and a BBK on down the line. i will then swap on the stock engine so i have matching numbers and throw the 140 on my spare frame. id rather have a running bike in 2 weeks than in 6-8 months) any help will be greatly appreciated. thanks

11-23-2009, 10:10 AM	#2 (permalink)
doopsx3 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: San Diego Posts: 4,730 My Mood:	Re: Chinese Engine question Get ahold of Terry at Firepowerminis........one, he knows just about everything you need to know about these engines..he will giv you a straight up no bull answer about stuff w/o tryn to force ya to buy sumn for the answer...then ya should just buy the engine you want from him...you will be glad ya did later

11-23-2009, 10:42 AM	#3 (permalink)
zwieblekopf 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 725	Re: Chinese Engine question gpx, g2 and piranha are basically the same motor

11-23-2009, 10:45 AM	#4 (permalink)
Double0 1st Gear Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: glenville PA Posts: 178 My Mood:	Re: Chinese Engine question i run a G2 140 motor on my 10 inch and it has a good amount of power and has been one of the most reliable china motors ive had.

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