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ToyYoda · 11-09-2008, 06:51 PM

Found this GREAT site & hope someone has installed a longer swingarm on their CT 70 & can let me know the pros./cons. of spending $300 bucks to gain 4" in length. I am looking to trail & street ride my 1979 & 1982 70s. The arm im looking at is sold by CHP. Know that both of my bikes will do 45-50 & thats part of why im looking into the longer arm. Any info would be great ! Thanx

RAZZO · 11-09-2008, 07:59 PM

Not worth it. Just upgrade your rear shocks from stock pogo sticks. CHP sells a set of Kitaco shocks for under a $100. Work real well.

I have a couple of CT's. Street - 1992 CT70 w/ 88 RH 16T/33T & 1970 White Dax w/ 114cc 4-spd. 16T/33T. Stock swingers. Alum. swinger looks great but not needed.

Z · 11-09-2008, 08:52 PM

Extended swingarms on a CT70 look like poo and throw off the lines of the bike unless you take the time to custom fabricate a proper rear fender for the bike. And, as Mike pointed out above, they are not needed since the CT70 does not suffer from a short wheelbase like the Z50's do in stock form.

What is needed is inspecting the original swingarm bushings and replacing them if you have play.

moto234 · 11-09-2008, 09:18 PM

********** .com has one for 195, its kinda plain but its as good looking as any of the cheaper ones. if youre gonna blow 300 spend the extra and go G-craft, i could be wrong but i think they are around 400 for some of theirs. they have the nicest stuff available for sure but its very expensive

ToyYoda · 11-10-2008, 07:23 PM

Great, Thank you all for your advice. I didn't even think about longer arm not matching rear fender. Yes on the rear shocks making a big diff. I bought the piggy back ones & they do work very well. I will pull the stock arms & check bushings/bearings. Thanx again!

muxster · 11-13-2008, 02:20 PM

ToyYoda...
Which piggy back shocks? Can you post a pic? I am researching shocks as well.

ToyYoda · 11-13-2008, 06:43 PM

Trail buddy $95.00 a set. Don't know how long they will last & still haven't played with the nitrogen pressure. So far much better than the cheeper ones they sell & came with the bike I bought.

muxster · 11-14-2008, 08:00 AM

Those are sweet looking!

ToyYoda · 11-14-2008, 09:01 AM

Yes they look like they should cost $250 each! When I got them I couldn't belive how cool they looked. And yes they work much better than stock. I would recommened them. Still wish I had a longer a arm to work with the new shocks. I do not plan to show the bike nor am I a collector. Street/ trail riding is my goal so a good working suspension & a bike that handles at speed is my is important.

fatcaaat · 11-14-2008, 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z

Extended swingarms on a CT70 look like poo and throw off the lines of the bike unless you take the time to custom fabricate a proper rear fender for the bike. And, as Mike pointed out above, they are not needed since the CT70 does not suffer from a short wheelbase like the Z50's do in stock form.

What is needed is inspecting the original swingarm bushings and replacing them if you have play.

I have an 4" extended swingarm on my CT70 and I have to agree with Z...it does throw off the lines of the bike and takes a significant amount of work to get the rear fender correct. I don't like how mine came out and I am likely to go back to the original CT70 Swingarm in the near future...just as soon as I can figure out how to make it compatible with my rear disc setup I already own.

And to be honest, I feel no difference in stability between my extended swinger CT70 and my stock swinger CT70 even at speeds exceeding 60mph. Upgrade your forks and shocks first...and your brakes.

muxster · 11-14-2008, 09:31 AM

Fatcaaat....can you send me a pic of that rear disc setup?

I did extactly what you said. I am working on front end first, disc etc. I was really thinking about a Gcraft swinger but now have to rethink that. I eventually want a rear disc setup and I cannot stand drum brakes and stopping is everything to me. My buddies and I mainly ride hills and turns in Palos Verdes where we live.

Z · 11-14-2008, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by muxster

Fatcaaat....can you send me a pic of that rear disc setup?

I did extactly what you said. I am working on front end first, disc etc. I was really thinking about a Gcraft swinger but now have to rethink that. I eventually want a rear disc setup and I cannot stand drum brakes and stopping is everything to me. My buddies and I mainly ride hills and turns in Palos Verdes where we live.

Rear disc brakes on these bikes aren't needed. Just get a good disk front end with a stainless braided brake line.

TankTheory · 11-14-2008, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToyYoda

Trail buddy $95.00 a set. Don't know how long they will last & still haven't played with the nitrogen pressure. So far much better than the cheeper ones they sell & came with the bike I bought.

DO NOT
BUY THESE.

For the love of god, don't buy them. They are not nitrogen, they are filled with gross oil and are stiff as hell, plus one of the seals blew on me from normal street riding and now i have that oil **** all over the place

11-09-2008, 06:51 PM	#1 (permalink)
ToyYoda PM Newbie Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: San Diego Posts: 4	CT 70 Longer swingarm imput Found this GREAT site & hope someone has installed a longer swingarm on their CT 70 & can let me know the pros./cons. of spending $300 bucks to gain 4" in length. I am looking to trail & street ride my 1979 & 1982 70s. The arm im looking at is sold by CHP. Know that both of my bikes will do 45-50 & thats part of why im looking into the longer arm. Any info would be great ! Thanx

11-09-2008, 07:59 PM	#2 (permalink)
RAZZO Old School Z50s Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: NEW JERSEY PINELANDS Posts: 1,973 My Mood:	Re: CT 70 Longer swingarm imput Not worth it. Just upgrade your rear shocks from stock pogo sticks. CHP sells a set of Kitaco shocks for under a $100. Work real well. I have a couple of CT's. Street - 1992 CT70 w/ 88 RH 16T/33T & 1970 White Dax w/ 114cc 4-spd. 16T/33T. Stock swingers. Alum. swinger looks great but not needed.

11-09-2008, 08:52 PM	#3 (permalink)
Z 5th Gear Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: KANSAS Posts: 8,541	Re: CT 70 Longer swingarm imput Extended swingarms on a CT70 look like poo and throw off the lines of the bike unless you take the time to custom fabricate a proper rear fender for the bike. And, as Mike pointed out above, they are not needed since the CT70 does not suffer from a short wheelbase like the Z50's do in stock form. What is needed is inspecting the original swingarm bushings and replacing them if you have play.

11-09-2008, 09:18 PM	#4 (permalink)
moto234 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: CHICO CA Ukiah CA MENDO 707 Posts: 2,782	Re: CT 70 Longer swingarm imput ********** .com has one for 195, its kinda plain but its as good looking as any of the cheaper ones. if youre gonna blow 300 spend the extra and go G-craft, i could be wrong but i think they are around 400 for some of theirs. they have the nicest stuff available for sure but its very expensive

11-10-2008, 07:23 PM	#5 (permalink)
ToyYoda PM Newbie Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: San Diego Posts: 4	Re: CT 70 Longer swingarm imput Great, Thank you all for your advice. I didn't even think about longer arm not matching rear fender. Yes on the rear shocks making a big diff. I bought the piggy back ones & they do work very well. I will pull the stock arms & check bushings/bearings. Thanx again!

11-13-2008, 02:20 PM	#6 (permalink)
muxster 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Redondo Beach, Ca. Posts: 471 My Mood:	Re: CT 70 Longer swingarm imput ToyYoda... Which piggy back shocks? Can you post a pic? I am researching shocks as well.

11-13-2008, 06:43 PM	#7 (permalink)
ToyYoda PM Newbie Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: San Diego Posts: 4	Re: CT 70 Longer swingarm imput Trail buddy $95.00 a set. Don't know how long they will last & still haven't played with the nitrogen pressure. So far much better than the cheeper ones they sell & came with the bike I bought. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by ToyYoda; 11-13-2008 at 06:48 PM.

11-14-2008, 08:00 AM	#8 (permalink)
muxster 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Redondo Beach, Ca. Posts: 471 My Mood:	Re: CT 70 Longer swingarm imput Those are sweet looking!

11-14-2008, 09:01 AM	#9 (permalink)
ToyYoda PM Newbie Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: San Diego Posts: 4	Re: CT 70 Longer swingarm imput Yes they look like they should cost $250 each! When I got them I couldn't belive how cool they looked. And yes they work much better than stock. I would recommened them. Still wish I had a longer a arm to work with the new shocks. I do not plan to show the bike nor am I a collector. Street/ trail riding is my goal so a good working suspension & a bike that handles at speed is my is important.

11-14-2008, 09:31 AM	#11 (permalink)
muxster 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Redondo Beach, Ca. Posts: 471 My Mood:	Re: CT 70 Longer swingarm imput Fatcaaat....can you send me a pic of that rear disc setup? I did extactly what you said. I am working on front end first, disc etc. I was really thinking about a Gcraft swinger but now have to rethink that. I eventually want a rear disc setup and I cannot stand drum brakes and stopping is everything to me. My buddies and I mainly ride hills and turns in Palos Verdes where we live.

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