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timo38 · 02-10-2006, 04:05 AM

hey guys.
i have a z50 with applied fork springs and she sits fairly front end high and wanting to level her out. i was thinkin extendin the swinger and adding longer shocks. just wanted to know wot length of shockies and extra lenghth on stock swinger would make her sit level.

SprNtrl · 02-10-2006, 05:55 AM

Maybe try 280-285mm shock length to raise the end up.

RAZZO · 02-10-2006, 06:19 AM

I Have The Kitaco 280mm Shocks And The Kitaco +2 Swinger On My 96 Z50r. You Might Need The 300mm Shocks And The +2 Or The +4 Swingarm. I Purchased Mine At Classic Honda Performance. They Have Them In Stock. The Shocks Are About $90 And The Swinger Is About $275. Major Difference In The Handling!

turboglenn · 02-10-2006, 07:23 AM

i just put the same springs in the front of my woman's Z50

we are not building it for racing or jumping really, but what is the stock lenght of the rear shocks (in mm) so i can order some aftermarket shocks that DrATV has. i only need it to sit about an inch higher in the rear than it currently does, and we won't be changing the swinger...after all it's HER bike and she likes it the way it is but the rear springs are just too soft

Z50King · 02-10-2006, 08:01 AM

I added 2.5 inches to my stock swinger, then moved the shock mount to where it should be 2.5 inches closer to the bike on the swinger. Works crazy good, like a cat, meow, meow.

SprNtrl · 02-10-2006, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by turboglenn

i just put the same springs in the front of my woman's Z50

we are not building it for racing or jumping really, but what is the stock lenght of the rear shocks (in mm) so i can order some aftermarket shocks that DrATV has. i only need it to sit about an inch higher in the rear than it currently does, and we won't be changing the swinger...after all it's HER bike and she likes it the way it is but the rear springs are just too soft

Dont quote me on this bike im pretty sure the stock length shocks are around 255mm in length. Im sure someone will correct me though.

jigracing · 02-10-2006, 10:15 AM

I measured 270mm on my stock shocks. 1987, eye to eye measurement

I have plus 1's and XR70 shocks. sits level.

turboglenn · 02-10-2006, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by jigracing

I measured 270mm on my stock shocks. 1987, eye to eye measurement

I have plus 1's and XR70 shocks. sits level.

WHAT YEAR xr 70 SHOCKS ( OR ANY OTHER SHOCKS FOR THAT MATTER) THAT I CAN GET CHEAP AND HAVE THEM WORK?

SORRY ABOUT THE CAPS LOCK! MY JOB REQUIRES IT

jigracing · 02-10-2006, 11:28 AM

Yeah caps lock for me to, when I'm working.
Dont know exactly what year my shocks are I think they are 1974 XR70 shocks.. Got them on Ebay cheap.

TeamGCS1 · 02-10-2006, 11:40 AM

These are same ones I use(CT 70), here are a pair on Ebay. A little paint, some new bushings!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Gold-...WDVWQQtcZphoto

jigracing · 02-10-2006, 11:44 AM

Thats not the ones I have.

TeamGCS1 · 02-10-2006, 11:51 AM

Those look like they ride better than mine

timo38 · 02-11-2006, 12:39 AM

if i extended my swing arm by 2 inches, what bikes shocks would make it sit level and that are fair stiff. the stock z ones feels like theres a sponge wheres the springs ment to be

Z50King · 02-11-2006, 01:03 AM

Try this stuff, not just the tires, but look around the bike, notice any thing different?

http://www.planetminis.com/f8/new-tires-z50-pics-21304/

timo38 · 02-11-2006, 01:56 AM

i like it , it sits awesome. are you runnin the applied springs aswell? also if you could measure the distance between the top shock mount hole to where the old bottom one used to be so i can get an idea of wot lenght the shocks ill need to get.

RAZZO · 02-11-2006, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timo38

if i extended my swing arm by 2 inches, what bikes shocks would make it sit level and that are fair stiff. the stock z ones feels like theres a sponge wheres the springs ment to be

IF YOU GO WITH THE +2 SWINGARM YOU WILL NEED THE 280MM SHOCKS LIKE I HAVE. THE KITACO ONES ON MY ARE ADJUSTABLE AND IMPROVE THE BIKE GREATLY!! NOT SPONGES LIKE THE OEM ONES.

02-10-2006, 04:05 AM	#1 (permalink)
timo38 PM Newbie Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 76	goin to begin more mods to my z50r and wanting a little help on wot to do hey guys. i have a z50 with applied fork springs and she sits fairly front end high and wanting to level her out. i was thinkin extendin the swinger and adding longer shocks. just wanted to know wot length of shockies and extra lenghth on stock swinger would make her sit level.

02-10-2006, 10:15 AM	#7 (permalink)
jigracing Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Hesperia, Ca Posts: 3,265 My Mood:	I measured 270mm on my stock shocks. 1987, eye to eye measurement I have plus 1's and XR70 shocks. sits level. __________________ Scott

02-10-2006, 11:28 AM	#9 (permalink)
jigracing Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Hesperia, Ca Posts: 3,265 My Mood:	Yeah caps lock for me to, when I'm working. Dont know exactly what year my shocks are I think they are 1974 XR70 shocks.. Got them on Ebay cheap. __________________ Scott

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TeamGCS1 PM Newbie Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Pacific Nortwest Posts: 49	These are same ones I use(CT 70), here are a pair on Ebay. A little paint, some new bushings! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Gold-...WDVWQQtcZphoto Last edited by TeamGCS1; 02-10-2006 at 11:44 AM.

02-10-2006, 11:44 AM	#11 (permalink)
jigracing Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Hesperia, Ca Posts: 3,265 My Mood:	Thats not the ones I have. __________________ Scott

02-10-2006, 05:55 AM	#2 (permalink)
SprNtrl 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,183 My Mood:	Maybe try 280-285mm shock length to raise the end up.

02-10-2006, 06:19 AM	#3 (permalink)
RAZZO Old School Z50s Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: NEW JERSEY PINELANDS Posts: 1,973 My Mood:	I Have The Kitaco 280mm Shocks And The Kitaco +2 Swinger On My 96 Z50r. You Might Need The 300mm Shocks And The +2 Or The +4 Swingarm. I Purchased Mine At Classic Honda Performance. They Have Them In Stock. The Shocks Are About $90 And The Swinger Is About $275. Major Difference In The Handling!

02-10-2006, 07:23 AM	#4 (permalink)
turboglenn 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 1,941	i just put the same springs in the front of my woman's Z50 we are not building it for racing or jumping really, but what is the stock lenght of the rear shocks (in mm) so i can order some aftermarket shocks that DrATV has. i only need it to sit about an inch higher in the rear than it currently does, and we won't be changing the swinger...after all it's HER bike and she likes it the way it is but the rear springs are just too soft

02-10-2006, 08:01 AM	#5 (permalink)
Z50King 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Upland, Ca, CPP Posts: 9,758 My Mood:	I added 2.5 inches to my stock swinger, then moved the shock mount to where it should be 2.5 inches closer to the bike on the swinger. Works crazy good, like a cat, meow, meow.

02-10-2006, 11:51 AM	#12 (permalink)
TeamGCS1 PM Newbie Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Pacific Nortwest Posts: 49	Those look like they ride better than mine

02-11-2006, 12:39 AM	#13 (permalink)
timo38 PM Newbie Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 76	if i extended my swing arm by 2 inches, what bikes shocks would make it sit level and that are fair stiff. the stock z ones feels like theres a sponge wheres the springs ment to be

02-11-2006, 01:03 AM	#14 (permalink)
Z50King 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Upland, Ca, CPP Posts: 9,758 My Mood:	Try this stuff, not just the tires, but look around the bike, notice any thing different? http://www.planetminis.com/f8/new-tires-z50-pics-21304/

02-11-2006, 01:56 AM	#15 (permalink)
timo38 PM Newbie Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 76	i like it , it sits awesome. are you runnin the applied springs aswell? also if you could measure the distance between the top shock mount hole to where the old bottom one used to be so i can get an idea of wot lenght the shocks ill need to get.

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