Planet Minis

arlindsay1992 · 03-06-2007, 06:17 AM

I snuck in some time to work on my bike while I was home alone. It came to my attention when looking at old pictures and old posts that my rear fender may not look like it was far enough back when I install my +4 swingarm. I read that a +2 centers the wheel in the fender. Since I have a +4, I made some +2 mounts for my rear fender. How do they look?

d0n · 03-06-2007, 06:35 AM

Nice job on that Q. It's gonna look good mounted up! R U gonna paint everything on the bike.

racerx351 · 03-06-2007, 07:21 AM

Nice job Q....

arlindsay1992 · 03-06-2007, 01:07 PM

I'm only planning on the swingarm at this point. I'm not going to pay big bucks to get R-120 Blaze red. I'm thinking about silver or black for the swingarm.

fatcaaat · 03-06-2007, 01:16 PM

Are you sure those new mounts are going to get hit by the extended swinger coming up?

arlindsay1992 · 03-06-2007, 02:40 PM

I don't think so. Those pictures are with 280mm shocks installed. I have bought but not installed a set of 335mm shocks. So they should be good.

arlindsay1992 · 03-14-2007, 08:21 PM

I sold the 280mm shocks and my dad let me put on the 335mm shocks. They are a lot taller than I thought. Later, I put on the back fender to see how that would look. Looks a bit weird. But it should be hidden by the right number plate when I put back the original exhaust and number plate. I also bent the brake rod so that it could be routed to the bottom of the swingarm. I just think it looks better.

xr100man · 03-14-2007, 08:22 PM

why do you have to sneek around to work on your bike?

d0n · 03-14-2007, 08:26 PM

looks good Q. I like the bikes new stance

tmas · 03-14-2007, 08:26 PM

Those shocks are freakin HUGE!.They look longer than the swingarm.

tmas

arlindsay1992 · 03-15-2007, 04:54 AM

I can't ride or work on my bike because I got a C in history class. I have to have all As and Bs to ride it. The shocks are 335mm. I think 330 would have bee better. But I couldn't turn down an awesome deal. Z88R, you are the man!

Fullthrottle · 03-15-2007, 05:16 AM

nice job! ... just in case.... i got a front fender ktm for supermoto in black for $25.00 canadien if your interest...

RAZZO · 03-15-2007, 06:26 AM

Q, alittle point of interest. Do you realize with those shocks and swing that when you drop that bike on the ground its going to have the stance of a drag bike? I think you are going to need +1" fork legs legs to bring it up. I am building a Z50R w/ an XR swingarm now w/ 330 mm shocks and needed +1's to level it out. Those shocks you have will be super stiff w/ considering your weight too. Just a thought.

arlindsay1992 · 03-15-2007, 02:35 PM

Yeah. They will be stiff. I realize that. But for the forks, I have a set of CRF50 forks that I plan to use with a CRF50 10 inch wheel. The forks themselves are +1 compared to Z50R forks. And I think that a CRF50 front wheel with stock tire is pretty close to Z50R wheels. Even though the wheel is bigger, the tires are a lower profile and look about the same and Z50 tires in outer diameter. I heard that the CT70 shocks(what I have) would be softer, but they are just the same as the 280mm XR75 shocks I had. I don't understand how anyone rides bikes with suspensions this stiff. Are CT70s and XR75s known for stiff suspension?

xr100man · 03-15-2007, 03:10 PM

how many and what bikes do you have?

arlindsay1992 · 03-15-2007, 03:55 PM

Two Z50Rs. One 84, one 79.

d0n · 03-15-2007, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arlindsay1992

I don't understand how anyone rides bikes with suspensions this stiff. Are CT70s and XR75s known for stiff suspension?

you are a skinny boy Q! Beef up and those shocks will be fine.

Brent878 · 03-15-2007, 04:39 PM

are those shocks at a weird angle? have you tried sitting on it yet? Does it feel real stiff?

arlindsay1992 · 03-15-2007, 06:07 PM

It would take about 20-30 minutes to take the bike off the stand, look at it, sit on it, push it around the basement, take some pictures and put it back on the stand. So next time I'm home alone long enough and sure I will be, I'll take it down.

makotosun · 03-15-2007, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brent878

are those shocks at a weird angle? have you tried sitting on it yet? Does it feel real stiff?

It reminds me of a lot of the first old enduros that used a "lay down" rear shock in the 70's to get better suspension performance and greater travel. As I recall it was a decent solution before the advent of the successful monoshocks.

I would think the angle will actually soften the spring rate a bit, even for someone as anorexic as Q

No offence Q - but most of the rest of us could use something a bit stiffer.....

For the front if you could source a ZB50 front end, you would level it out nicely. That is the front I am going to be using on my upcoming build.

03-06-2007, 06:17 AM	#1 (permalink)
arlindsay1992 "High Speed Record Guy" Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 4,369	Got to do some work today I snuck in some time to work on my bike while I was home alone. It came to my attention when looking at old pictures and old posts that my rear fender may not look like it was far enough back when I install my +4 swingarm. I read that a +2 centers the wheel in the fender. Since I have a +4, I made some +2 mounts for my rear fender. How do they look?

03-06-2007, 06:35 AM	#2 (permalink)
d0n 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Troy NY Posts: 2,172	Nice job on that Q. It's gonna look good mounted up! R U gonna paint everything on the bike.

03-06-2007, 07:21 AM	#3 (permalink)
racerx351 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,774	Nice job Q....

03-06-2007, 01:07 PM	#4 (permalink)
arlindsay1992 "High Speed Record Guy" Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 4,369	I'm only planning on the swingarm at this point. I'm not going to pay big bucks to get R-120 Blaze red. I'm thinking about silver or black for the swingarm.

03-06-2007, 01:16 PM	#5 (permalink)
fatcaaat 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 3,780	Are you sure those new mounts are going to get hit by the extended swinger coming up?

03-06-2007, 02:40 PM	#6 (permalink)
arlindsay1992 "High Speed Record Guy" Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 4,369	I don't think so. Those pictures are with 280mm shocks installed. I have bought but not installed a set of 335mm shocks. So they should be good.

03-14-2007, 08:21 PM	#7 (permalink)
arlindsay1992 "High Speed Record Guy" Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 4,369	I sold the 280mm shocks and my dad let me put on the 335mm shocks. They are a lot taller than I thought. Later, I put on the back fender to see how that would look. Looks a bit weird. But it should be hidden by the right number plate when I put back the original exhaust and number plate. I also bent the brake rod so that it could be routed to the bottom of the swingarm. I just think it looks better.

03-14-2007, 08:22 PM	#8 (permalink)
xr100man 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Chicago Burbs Posts: 1,129	why do you have to sneek around to work on your bike?

03-14-2007, 08:26 PM	#9 (permalink)
d0n 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Troy NY Posts: 2,172	looks good Q. I like the bikes new stance

03-14-2007, 08:26 PM	#10 (permalink)
tmas ZB50 Jedi Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 4,108	Those shocks are freakin HUGE!.They look longer than the swingarm. tmas

03-15-2007, 04:54 AM	#11 (permalink)
arlindsay1992 "High Speed Record Guy" Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 4,369	I can't ride or work on my bike because I got a C in history class. I have to have all As and Bs to ride it. The shocks are 335mm. I think 330 would have bee better. But I couldn't turn down an awesome deal. Z88R, you are the man!

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03-15-2007, 05:16 AM	#12 (permalink)
Fullthrottle 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Montréal, Québec, Canada Posts: 424	nice job! ... just in case.... i got a front fender ktm for supermoto in black for $25.00 canadien if your interest...

03-15-2007, 06:26 AM	#13 (permalink)
RAZZO Old School Z50s Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: NEW JERSEY PINELANDS Posts: 1,971 My Mood:	Q, alittle point of interest. Do you realize with those shocks and swing that when you drop that bike on the ground its going to have the stance of a drag bike? I think you are going to need +1" fork legs legs to bring it up. I am building a Z50R w/ an XR swingarm now w/ 330 mm shocks and needed +1's to level it out. Those shocks you have will be super stiff w/ considering your weight too. Just a thought.

03-15-2007, 02:35 PM	#14 (permalink)
arlindsay1992 "High Speed Record Guy" Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 4,369	Yeah. They will be stiff. I realize that. But for the forks, I have a set of CRF50 forks that I plan to use with a CRF50 10 inch wheel. The forks themselves are +1 compared to Z50R forks. And I think that a CRF50 front wheel with stock tire is pretty close to Z50R wheels. Even though the wheel is bigger, the tires are a lower profile and look about the same and Z50 tires in outer diameter. I heard that the CT70 shocks(what I have) would be softer, but they are just the same as the 280mm XR75 shocks I had. I don't understand how anyone rides bikes with suspensions this stiff. Are CT70s and XR75s known for stiff suspension?

03-15-2007, 03:10 PM	#15 (permalink)
xr100man 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Chicago Burbs Posts: 1,129	how many and what bikes do you have?

03-15-2007, 03:55 PM	#16 (permalink)
arlindsay1992 "High Speed Record Guy" Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 4,369	Two Z50Rs. One 84, one 79.

03-15-2007, 04:39 PM	#18 (permalink)
Brent878 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Southern California Posts: 2,147	are those shocks at a weird angle? have you tried sitting on it yet? Does it feel real stiff?

03-15-2007, 06:07 PM	#19 (permalink)
arlindsay1992 "High Speed Record Guy" Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 4,369	It would take about 20-30 minutes to take the bike off the stand, look at it, sit on it, push it around the basement, take some pictures and put it back on the stand. So next time I'm home alone long enough and sure I will be, I'll take it down.