Planet Minis

xr50rider123 · 02-22-2007, 02:30 PM

well, i just got a 1995 z50 for free. i was talking to some kid in school about my old mini a couple years ago, and he said he wished he still had his. it turns out that he was riding it w/o the stator on, and a stick got caught up in the stator and broke off the timing. it was a 107cc tb. engine that his uncle built for him and gave to him. after that broke he lent it to a kid that said they could fix it and they stole the head, cylinder, carb, and intake off of it. so he said i can have it if i want.so i said sure, why the hell not? anyways, i get it tommarow and he's telling me its pretty beat, he said a fat kid was riding it and landed off a jump and one of the shocks just popped off....lol, and that everything else is fine.so since the engine is missing half of it, and the stator is broken, i think im just going to get a new engine. i was thinking maybe a gpx since i use to have one in my xr50, and had good luck with it. i dont have the money to build a super honda engine, so for now, i want the most power for my money, thats why i think im going to go with a gpx. next, i want a new rear swingarm and shocks, not sure on where to go here, was thinking i want to get an extended one, but not sure where to get one at, and as for shocks i have no clue. then, the tires and rims are going to be replaced, i was looking at the chrome rims on ebay with the hub's, has anyone used these or not? im not sure about the forks, should i just get plus ones or are there other good forks out there that will still let me use the z tires/rim. or since i want to ride this thing hard should i just go with a crf front end? do you guys think a minigunz pipe will fit a gpx, if so i plan on going that route unless you guys reccommend another pipe?

i want the bike to be loud because im only going to be using it at the track, and i want it to sound intimidating.....lol.

does this sound good? if not what do you guys think i should do vto make my new z a dirt beast?

bbmatthewbrown · 02-22-2007, 02:34 PM

good find and for the swinger get an old xr75 one and some new longer shocks

supernes550 · 02-22-2007, 02:39 PM

if you run the gpx you'll run into exhaust fitment issues as the gpx has a longer cylinder. roll with what you have and buy parts as you can.

xr50rider123 · 02-22-2007, 02:42 PM

well, the stator isnt the only problem, i think the whole bottom end is rusted out, the kickstarter gears are stripped i think, and it has no cylinder, so i dont see the point in trying to repair that. is there anyway to work around the gpx issues w/o it being a huge hassle?

Z50King · 02-22-2007, 02:56 PM

talk to d0n about the pipe fitment. he got his to fit. dont know what he did or used. but he did it

Thumper273 · 02-22-2007, 04:02 PM

cool, im doing the same thing to my 1997, but its gonna be a stock crf killa. Fast 50's tall bar kit, fork bushings, fork springs, heavy duty chain, skidplate, snohog tires. woot woot.

2006klx110rider · 02-22-2007, 04:09 PM

a stock 93-98 z 50 would walk all over a stock crf 50.

Icrash50's · 02-22-2007, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 2006klx110rider

a stock 93-98 z 50 would walk all over a stock crf 50.

true statement, my stock '94 beat my stock '04 on the street head to head

supernes550 · 02-22-2007, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by xr50rider123

well, the stator isnt the only problem, i think the whole bottom end is rusted out, the kickstarter gears are stripped i think, and it has no cylinder, so i dont see the point in trying to repair that. is there anyway to work around the gpx issues w/o it being a huge hassle?

2 issues if you run the gpx are the head hitting the front fender or tire and the exhaust tab won't line up at the frame. you def can work around it.
you can run a different exhaust like these:
http://www.dratv.com/blshmu.html
http://www.dratv.com/v8spsoexblal.html

Icrash50's · 02-22-2007, 04:25 PM

i had an issue with the intake a carb too...much too high, but im sure with an intake that swings to the left would have settled that prob, but then there's the petcock...

C_Thut · 02-22-2007, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by supernes550

2 issues if you run the gpx are the head hitting the front fender or tire and the exhaust tab won't line up at the frame. you def can work around it.
you can run a different exhaust like these:
http://www.dratv.com/blshmu.html
http://www.dratv.com/v8spsoexblal.html

im thinking about buying one of those but i like to hit up the trails sometimes and i dont think the down-style exhuasts would hold up to many rocks etc.
whats a good up-style pipe for around $100-ish?

xr50rider123 · 02-22-2007, 05:23 PM

yea, i said i wanna make it a dirt beast, meaning i dont wannna case a jump and have my pipe bend or break. is there any drop in motor that is just as good, or am i pretty much going to have to go with a honda 88? wont a 107 or 117 have the same clearence issues?

lowbike1 · 02-22-2007, 05:27 PM

Ive got a used big gunz I'll sell you for a $100 shipped its in good shape, no dents,, I put a bbr header on it, works great, nice and loud

arlindsay1992 · 02-22-2007, 07:46 PM

No. TB parts use the stock height cylinder. All the displacement comes from the crank and the bore of the cylinder. Cylinder height is the same in all TB parts for 50s.

supernes550 · 02-22-2007, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by C_Thut

im thinking about buying one of those but i like to hit up the trails sometimes and i dont think the down-style exhuasts would hold up to many rocks etc.
whats a good up-style pipe for around $100-ish?

not many to choose from and for that price probably used. unless you get one made.

C_Thut · 02-23-2007, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by supernes550

not many to choose from and for that price probably used. unless you get one made.

what about in the 200 range?

symp · 02-23-2007, 01:11 PM

mini gunz is 200 i think

i just shortened a crf d-pipe copy for mine, cost about $45us, wanna make a vid but my camera dont have a mic. the pipe performs well and sounds good for the price

02-22-2007, 02:30 PM	#1 (permalink)
xr50rider123 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 524	just got a 1995 z50 for free, want to turn it into a dirt beast.............. well, i just got a 1995 z50 for free. i was talking to some kid in school about my old mini a couple years ago, and he said he wished he still had his. it turns out that he was riding it w/o the stator on, and a stick got caught up in the stator and broke off the timing. it was a 107cc tb. engine that his uncle built for him and gave to him. after that broke he lent it to a kid that said they could fix it and they stole the head, cylinder, carb, and intake off of it. so he said i can have it if i want.so i said sure, why the hell not? anyways, i get it tommarow and he's telling me its pretty beat, he said a fat kid was riding it and landed off a jump and one of the shocks just popped off....lol, and that everything else is fine.so since the engine is missing half of it, and the stator is broken, i think im just going to get a new engine. i was thinking maybe a gpx since i use to have one in my xr50, and had good luck with it. i dont have the money to build a super honda engine, so for now, i want the most power for my money, thats why i think im going to go with a gpx. next, i want a new rear swingarm and shocks, not sure on where to go here, was thinking i want to get an extended one, but not sure where to get one at, and as for shocks i have no clue. then, the tires and rims are going to be replaced, i was looking at the chrome rims on ebay with the hub's, has anyone used these or not? im not sure about the forks, should i just get plus ones or are there other good forks out there that will still let me use the z tires/rim. or since i want to ride this thing hard should i just go with a crf front end? do you guys think a minigunz pipe will fit a gpx, if so i plan on going that route unless you guys reccommend another pipe? i want the bike to be loud because im only going to be using it at the track, and i want it to sound intimidating.....lol. does this sound good? if not what do you guys think i should do vto make my new z a dirt beast?

02-22-2007, 02:34 PM	#2 (permalink)
bbmatthewbrown 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Northern California Posts: 306	good find and for the swinger get an old xr75 one and some new longer shocks

02-22-2007, 02:39 PM	#3 (permalink)
supernes550 The Golden Ticket Join Date: May 2006 Location: 5outh 5an 0iego Posts: 3,616 My Mood:	if you run the gpx you'll run into exhaust fitment issues as the gpx has a longer cylinder. roll with what you have and buy parts as you can.

02-22-2007, 02:42 PM	#4 (permalink)
xr50rider123 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 524	well, the stator isnt the only problem, i think the whole bottom end is rusted out, the kickstarter gears are stripped i think, and it has no cylinder, so i dont see the point in trying to repair that. is there anyway to work around the gpx issues w/o it being a huge hassle?

02-22-2007, 02:56 PM	#5 (permalink)
Z50King 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Upland, Ca, CPP Posts: 9,758 My Mood:	talk to d0n about the pipe fitment. he got his to fit. dont know what he did or used. but he did it

02-22-2007, 04:02 PM	#6 (permalink)
Thumper273 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 426	cool, im doing the same thing to my 1997, but its gonna be a stock crf killa. Fast 50's tall bar kit, fork bushings, fork springs, heavy duty chain, skidplate, snohog tires. woot woot.

02-22-2007, 04:09 PM	#7 (permalink)
2006klx110rider 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Apple Valley,California Posts: 706	a stock 93-98 z 50 would walk all over a stock crf 50.

02-22-2007, 04:25 PM	#10 (permalink)
Icrash50's 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: south shore, MA Posts: 315	i had an issue with the intake a carb too...much too high, but im sure with an intake that swings to the left would have settled that prob, but then there's the petcock...

02-22-2007, 05:23 PM	#12 (permalink)
xr50rider123 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 524	yea, i said i wanna make it a dirt beast, meaning i dont wannna case a jump and have my pipe bend or break. is there any drop in motor that is just as good, or am i pretty much going to have to go with a honda 88? wont a 107 or 117 have the same clearence issues?

02-22-2007, 05:27 PM	#13 (permalink)
lowbike1 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Maple Ridge BC Canada Posts: 2,125	Ive got a used big gunz I'll sell you for a $100 shipped its in good shape, no dents,, I put a bbr header on it, works great, nice and loud

02-22-2007, 07:46 PM	#14 (permalink)
arlindsay1992 "High Speed Record Guy" Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 4,369	No. TB parts use the stock height cylinder. All the displacement comes from the crank and the bore of the cylinder. Cylinder height is the same in all TB parts for 50s.

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02-23-2007, 01:11 PM	#17 (permalink)
symp 1st Gear Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 206	mini gunz is 200 i think i just shortened a crf d-pipe copy for mine, cost about $45us, wanna make a vid but my camera dont have a mic. the pipe performs well and sounds good for the price