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It looks like the fake Z50 mini-turds have hit the shores.

eBay Motors: Honda : Honda Recreation (item 320278173644 end time Jul-30-08 0824 PDT)

Notice this paragraph in the auction:

These bikes are not sold as a street legal motorcycle. The bike is sold as a kit and each buyer will be given a bill of sale for this kit. The bikes carries a 30 day warranty. Please email if you have any questions. Thank you for bidding.

Translation - The importer brought these bikes in illegally and they aren't EPA, NHTSA or DOT approved and the chance of getting these made street legal won't be an easy task or technically legal.

And who is the manufacturer? Unknown...

Keep in mind the steerer tube is not the same as the early Z50A, so a good chunk of the parts will not fit the geniune article. The tanks are longer since the frame is extended. The list goes on and on.

Who is going to be the first person the purchase one of these turds?

I can understand purchasing a panda since they were legally imported into the USA, but to copy the original Z50? Ugh...

Rant off..

mxer3648

thats so f'd up!

50minikid

I can't believe they put the tank badge with the honda wing on it. And only on one side? Welcome to the U.S. miniturds.

Z

I'm sure the badges are being put on by either the importer or seller as they don't come with those badges from China.

xr80david

I surely won't be the first middle last and everything in between to buy one, and I am proud to say that.

Branyers

Impulse buyers are never in short supply and the fact that these little bikes turn heads means they will sell like hotcakes, regardless of their sh!t quality. They might serve their intended purpose - a few laps around the yard or campground before they're ready for the landfill. Why get it titled when it couldn't be trusted in traffic anyway?

50rider340

only cool thing is in CT if its 50ccs or less you can get it street legal. They got rid of the pedal law aka your moped doesnt have to have pedals in order to ride it on the roads. To boot you dont have to have your licence to ride a moped on the roads here. So basically everyone and there cuzin has one now. Funny thing is i rock out on my c70 with a 88 kit on it and a pipe and i havent had a single problem with it. Ive even gotten pulled over 2 oclock in the morning by a state trooper and the only reason why is so he could tell everyone back at the station what happend. Keep in mind there was a crew or 7 of us haha.

50mAfIa

american honda wont do ****. ur call would be a waste of theirs and ur time.

these are kit bikes that the buyer puts together. so they are basically parts.

there is ALOT of **** that honda should have sued over. there are a ton of knockoffs that are similiar to the xr 50 crf 50, and the ct 70.

and the bikes are so old the patent is probably ran out on it.[/

MXDAD185

yamaha just won a huge settlement over a company putting yamaha on there junk bike, there advertizing z50 honda trailbike on this junker, i think it's worth me emailing my honda rep about what this company is advertizing, hey you never know, i know honda will ck this out, your wright nothing will probley happen, but i'am going to email what there advertizing to my american honda rep anyway,
rusty!!

if they would call this pos a ding dong, chin chong, but using honda'a name to sell there motorcycle's is not wright!!!!!

Z

American Honda just sued numerous companies who were copying and selling Z50 and CT70 repair manuals on ebay and on the web. These repair and owners manuals were from 1968-1976.

Don't kid yourself, American Honda does more then you think.

Grafixxs

Getting any bike legal for the road is easy here in Michigan. And with gas price's they way they are, people are not caring what it is, just as long as it gets good gas milage.

Why do most Americans not understand, each and everyone one of us have sold out our country due too buying China made products...

Brand name shoes, brand name clothes, after market car parts and so on.

Im not for it, Im just stating the truth, take it as you want.

firepower354

Try to find a toy at Wal Mart, America's Store, not made in China.

Sue one Chinese company, so two pop up to replace it once the publicity increases their sales.

Saving a $>strength of economy. Sorta shortsighted.

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Grafixxs

Exactly right Terry!

How did things get this way? I know this is a tad off topic Dan but this is how it all started.

I dont blame the guy who selling them really, he's doing what he has too, or what he's come too know.

I try too buy USA made products but even then, whos too say the lable "MADE IN THE USA" is real?

If that bike was made here in the USA, it would cost the consumer $3500.00 or more too buy because every person who worked on it, made parts for it, has too drive a high $$ car (example). No one wants too live simple, we all want the best which cost alot.

Sorry if that doesn't make sense, Im just ranting...Im sick of people living outside of their means.

A depression is absolute with in the year too come....you hide and watch.

justinfielder441

those look like some that classic honda is selling. they have them listed in their catolog that i got at the indy dealer show this year. they sell those tanks and all.

The Nutty Professor

Incorrect. In Georgia a moped 49cc and under does not need a tag. So if you bought the bike with a 49cc motor and insured (You don't have to have insurance either but it's nice to have. An only a learners permit is needed and you're ridin' ) it and had a tittle stating it is 49cc you can replace the motor with something larger and still be legal as long as you're not dumb enough to advertise the upgrade. It's a loophole that nobody gives a damn about fixing.

DC50

I find this kinda funny.... why is this any different then what pitster,ssr and the "other" companies did a few years back? Its NOT!

Its just another knock-off bike GET OVER IT!

MXDAD185

ga is screwed up on scooter's,i've sold alot of scooter's to ga, ok!! in ga if 49cc they will not give you a tag, but the dealer has a form, that i give people in ga so they can get a tag, as a dealer i'am signing a form saying it will run 35mph and has over 2hp that's all they need to get a tag in ga, i've had so many people try to bring there scooter back, 49cc tag office no tag without form, i've went round and round with atl over this, i fax them a copy of mso saying street legal, atl say's no tag 49cc without form from dealer,ok i called police station in fort oglethope ga where customer lived, the police officer told me anything on the street he don't care what cc it is if they have no tag, there getting a ticket, so in ga the scooter law is real bad on 49cc scooter's, i was selling yamaha scooter's too, 49cc zuma good scooter's, i know yamaha was trying to get the law stright in ga on scooter's 49cc getting tag, ga is just stupid to this law, no tag for 49cc without form from dealer, and police giving ticket's for no tag on 49cc scooter's that atl say's you can't get tag?????

vegatron75

A depression is absolute with in the year too come....you hide and watch.[/QUOTE]

Are you saying that the U.S. will be in a depression within 12 months from now?

50mAfIa

literature is easier to sue on. especially if its corpyrighted. there are enuff changes i bet for these knock off bikes to be legal. as far as patents go. using the trademarked name would get them in trouble, but i dont think using these bikes will. or there would be NO knockoffs period. see what i mean?

and this spans from the rc motorsports days till now.

50mAfIa

ya they won over yamamoto, cuz they were using their logos and the name was too similiar.


btw they are selling it as a "recreation" a more fancy word then knockoff. i dont see anything happening with this. i bet those stickers or badges arent made by that company and they source them to cover their ass.