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DuckBoy · 07-08-2009, 01:54 AM

I'm looking for a motor that will hold me over while i piece together a legit setup. I want to know which knock off motor you recommend? Something with few mods to make it a decent runner its going to be used for cruising at high speeds. Is the yx160 the best option? Or is it the lifan 150. Tell me your thoughts an mods to make it a decent pinger. I want something that will last after i put together a decent motor i want to transfer this knock off to my next project.
Thanks for comment!

z50 chopper · 07-08-2009, 04:24 AM

IMHO go with the Lifan 150

firepower354 · 07-08-2009, 06:14 AM

IMSLTHO, also the Lifan 150 seems to be the best option, especially if the "legit" mill is Honda-based. Lots of mods available, reliable, and a good runner.

DuckBoy · 07-08-2009, 08:55 PM

is the YX not all what its cracked up to be? FATKAT posted 85mph on a V2, BBK, an a few other mods. Will the 150 ever be capable of this? is the reliability hands down lifan 150?

gstegman · 07-08-2009, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DuckBoy

is the YX not all what its cracked up to be? FATKAT posted 85mph on a V2, BBK, an a few other mods. Will the 150 ever be capable of this? is the reliability hands down lifan 150?

His run was downhill if I recall correctly and you are comparing a $550 motor to a >$1500 172cc mill. I had the Lifan 150 and really liked it.

Personally I have no clue what the top speeds are on my bikes. I gear them for around town not the salt flats...

firepower354 · 07-08-2009, 09:30 PM

YX. Cracked up. There's a joke in there somewhere...

z50 chopper · 07-08-2009, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by gstegman

His run was downhill if I recall correctly and you are comparing a $550 motor to a >$1500 172cc mill. I had the Lifan 150 and really liked it.

Personally I have no clue what the top speeds are on my bikes. I gear them for around town not the salt flats...

wasn't it downhill with a tail wind and leaning forwards for better arrow dynamics?

z50 chopper · 07-08-2009, 09:46 PM

In the end the choice is ultimatly up to you. I just see more Lifans out there than yx160s, so I figure parts availability would be easier with a Lifan engine.

DuckBoy · 07-09-2009, 01:07 AM

Lifan it is then, where is the best place to purchase one? An by this i don't mean best price but service wise an reliable.

firepower354 · 07-09-2009, 05:52 AM

Well...

s_10onbagz · 07-09-2009, 07:33 PM

Everything I have heard of the lifan 150's is that they are damn quick. I would love to see what your legit motor is if a lifan 150 or yx160 is your hold you over motor.

Lifan 150's are a complete copy of a daytona motor and they seem to hold up well. 150cc, "special" clutch, and outer rotor kit. I would throw a flat slide carb on it and rip.

s_10onbagz · 07-09-2009, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by gstegman

personally i have no clue what the top speeds are on my bikes. I gear them for around town not the salt flats...

lol.

T Bolt USA · 07-09-2009, 07:39 PM

well after riding the new zonger im hooked
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let me know if we can help

wearenet · 07-10-2009, 05:44 PM

Lifan, they seem to have good quality control or as good as can be expected. The bolts they come with are somewhat crummy though, and of course they use glue instead of a real loctite. Can be made into screaming beast monsters though or so I have heard, but by that time all you are left with is a case and some internal gears.

cdoublejj · 07-10-2009, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TheCRKid

well after riding the new zonger im hooked
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let me know if we can help

yeah i'd go for this one it is supposed to accept the same bigbore kits as a YX

DuckBoy · 07-12-2009, 02:06 AM

An why would you want the yx bore kits over the others?

cdoublejj · 07-12-2009, 04:17 AM

well when i say yx bore kits i mean 170, 184, 192 cc bore kits i don't think any other engines other than YX's and the z155 accept the kits due to stroke and wrist pine size and stud spacing i could be wrong there maybe others...oh i think the gpx 125 accepts them too or has some big bore kits of it's own.

now the lifan125 it doesn't a whole for hop up parts, and the lifan150 i don't know of any big bore kits other than boring the cyl a few MMs and getting a nice akunar psiton wich as much as you can due for the lifan125 for big bore. i know you can getsome cams and a TB import head for the lifna125 as well.

T Bolt USA · 07-12-2009, 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DuckBoy

An why would you want the yx bore kits over the others?

the z motor accepts many TB , takagawa , kitaco kits for YX and KLX/DRZ 110
so theres alot of performance AND rebuild options

lifan 150 is a very strong motor
but limited to aftermarket and oem parts

another very similar option were haveing great luck wth is this 150cc
alot of aftermarket / oem parts are avalible and it a strong runner
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88ccmotoX · 07-12-2009, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by TheCRKid

the z motor accepts many TB , takagawa , kitaco kits for YX and KLX/DRZ 110
so theres alot of performance AND rebuild options

lifan 150 is a very strong motor
but limited to aftermarket and oem parts

another very similar option were haveing great luck wth is this 150cc
alot of aftermarket / oem parts are avalible and it a strong runner
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Hey! That's my motor and my bike! That YX 150 does make great power and has held up great so far! With the right gearing and a decent pipe its getting my 215 lbs to 65mph and a nice 55mph cruise speed all day long! Best part is it has a oil filter which is important to me!

cdoublejj · 07-12-2009, 01:03 PM

It is, congrats man! the one good thing about the yx aftermarket is if you decide it isn't enough power you can always get the big bore kits.

07-08-2009, 01:54 AM	#1 (permalink)
DuckBoy PM Newbie Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Central Texas Posts: 87	Motor thoughts I'm looking for a motor that will hold me over while i piece together a legit setup. I want to know which knock off motor you recommend? Something with few mods to make it a decent runner its going to be used for cruising at high speeds. Is the yx160 the best option? Or is it the lifan 150. Tell me your thoughts an mods to make it a decent pinger. I want something that will last after i put together a decent motor i want to transfer this knock off to my next project. Thanks for comment!

07-08-2009, 04:24 AM	#2 (permalink)
z50 chopper 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Nanaimo, BC, Canada Posts: 504 My Mood:	Re: Motor thoughts IMHO go with the Lifan 150

07-08-2009, 06:14 AM	#3 (permalink)
firepower354 Advertiser Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Flint MI Posts: 11,002 My Mood:	Re: Motor thoughts IMSLTHO, also the Lifan 150 seems to be the best option, especially if the "legit" mill is Honda-based. Lots of mods available, reliable, and a good runner. __________________ If it has my name on it I did it;) FirepowerMinis.com Custom FPM parts and engines. Parts and service for all makes. Honda Trail Bikes parts and accessories. Pitster/Piranha/Thumpstar bikes, parts, engines and accessories.

07-08-2009, 08:55 PM	#4 (permalink)
DuckBoy PM Newbie Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Central Texas Posts: 87	Re: Motor thoughts is the YX not all what its cracked up to be? FATKAT posted 85mph on a V2, BBK, an a few other mods. Will the 150 ever be capable of this? is the reliability hands down lifan 150?

07-08-2009, 09:30 PM	#6 (permalink)
firepower354 Advertiser Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Flint MI Posts: 11,002 My Mood:	Re: Motor thoughts YX. Cracked up. There's a joke in there somewhere... __________________ If it has my name on it I did it;) FirepowerMinis.com Custom FPM parts and engines. Parts and service for all makes. Honda Trail Bikes parts and accessories. Pitster/Piranha/Thumpstar bikes, parts, engines and accessories.

07-08-2009, 09:46 PM	#8 (permalink)
z50 chopper 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Nanaimo, BC, Canada Posts: 504 My Mood:	Re: Motor thoughts In the end the choice is ultimatly up to you. I just see more Lifans out there than yx160s, so I figure parts availability would be easier with a Lifan engine.

07-09-2009, 01:07 AM	#9 (permalink)
DuckBoy PM Newbie Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Central Texas Posts: 87	Re: Motor thoughts Lifan it is then, where is the best place to purchase one? An by this i don't mean best price but service wise an reliable. Last edited by DuckBoy; 07-09-2009 at 01:11 AM.

07-09-2009, 05:52 AM	#10 (permalink)
firepower354 Advertiser Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Flint MI Posts: 11,002 My Mood:	Re: Motor thoughts Well... __________________ If it has my name on it I did it;) FirepowerMinis.com Custom FPM parts and engines. Parts and service for all makes. Honda Trail Bikes parts and accessories. Pitster/Piranha/Thumpstar bikes, parts, engines and accessories.

07-09-2009, 07:33 PM	#11 (permalink)
s_10onbagz 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Connecticut. Posts: 1,550	Re: Motor thoughts Everything I have heard of the lifan 150's is that they are damn quick. I would love to see what your legit motor is if a lifan 150 or yx160 is your hold you over motor. Lifan 150's are a complete copy of a daytona motor and they seem to hold up well. 150cc, "special" clutch, and outer rotor kit. I would throw a flat slide carb on it and rip.

07-09-2009, 07:39 PM	#13 (permalink)
T Bolt USA Advertiser Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,789 My Mood:	Re: Motor thoughts well after riding the new zonger im hooked TBolt USA, LLC » Engines » Pitster Pro Engines let me know if we can help __________________ T Bolt USA ALL top Pitbikes ,Engines and Parts for Pitbikes & Minis Website Contact THECRKID@TBOLTUSA.COM or Call 215-630-3554

07-10-2009, 05:44 PM	#14 (permalink)
wearenet 1st Gear Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Michigan, All over Posts: 134	Re: Motor thoughts Lifan, they seem to have good quality control or as good as can be expected. The bolts they come with are somewhat crummy though, and of course they use glue instead of a real loctite. Can be made into screaming beast monsters though or so I have heard, but by that time all you are left with is a case and some internal gears.

07-12-2009, 02:06 AM	#16 (permalink)
DuckBoy PM Newbie Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Central Texas Posts: 87	Re: Motor thoughts An why would you want the yx bore kits over the others?

07-12-2009, 04:17 AM	#17 (permalink)
cdoublejj 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: St.Joe MO Posts: 1,367 My Mood:	Re: Motor thoughts well when i say yx bore kits i mean 170, 184, 192 cc bore kits i don't think any other engines other than YX's and the z155 accept the kits due to stroke and wrist pine size and stud spacing i could be wrong there maybe others...oh i think the gpx 125 accepts them too or has some big bore kits of it's own. now the lifan125 it doesn't a whole for hop up parts, and the lifan150 i don't know of any big bore kits other than boring the cyl a few MMs and getting a nice akunar psiton wich as much as you can due for the lifan125 for big bore. i know you can getsome cams and a TB import head for the lifna125 as well.

07-12-2009, 01:03 PM	#20 (permalink)
cdoublejj 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: St.Joe MO Posts: 1,367 My Mood:	Re: Motor thoughts It is, congrats man! the one good thing about the yx aftermarket is if you decide it isn't enough power you can always get the big bore kits.

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