Planet Minis

xr100man · 03-03-2007, 05:29 PM

What is so different that makes a xr/crf clamp not fit a z50? Also has anyone done the xr50 guts in z50 forks?

fittyrider · 03-03-2007, 05:30 PM

i believe its cause the forks on z50 are further apart then on an xr/crf50

d0n · 03-03-2007, 05:32 PM

I think you can put an xr50 front end on an XR... bolts right up.

general_lee01 · 03-03-2007, 05:52 PM

the distance between the to front bolt are widder on the z50. the forks are wider becuase the have fat tires on them and the xr 50 forks are skinner becuase the have skinny tires on them

JCMINIS · 03-03-2007, 05:52 PM

Tire width is the problem.I think the Z's look cool with the little plastic fork gaurds and the fat tire.

Yes the whole front end off of a crf will fit,you just have to use the wheel also..

lowbike1 · 03-03-2007, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by xr100man

What is so different that makes a xr/crf clamp not fit a z50? Also has anyone done the xr50 guts in z50 forks?

The Z50 forks are wider, to fit the fat tire in them. Quoke has a set of crf/xr fork "guts" in his Z50 forks and I have Z50 "guts" in my CRF50 forks...

xr100man · 03-03-2007, 08:35 PM

will xr/crf front fork springs fit with all stock z50 legs and tubes and hardware?

arlindsay1992 · 03-03-2007, 08:58 PM

Yeah. I think that CRF springs have an inch more travel than Z springs. Which just leaves more fork leg exposed which makes them easier to bend. I only have the CRF legs and guards.

xr100man · 03-03-2007, 09:08 PM

so how much total do you have in that bike?

xr100man · 03-03-2007, 09:09 PM

where is the cheapest i can fix my seals and put heavier duty springs? Is fast50s the best way to go?

arlindsay1992 · 03-03-2007, 09:18 PM

$1100 I'm guessing. That's not including the purchase price because it was a Christmas gift back in 2004. I've put a lot into it and I'm re-doing a lot now. Well, buying parts so I can redo it when I'm allowed.

xr100man · 03-03-2007, 09:24 PM

where do you ride it?

arlindsay1992 · 03-03-2007, 09:30 PM

Trails. A cool MTB rider I met on some commonly used trails helped me out and show me some trails that didn't connect to anything so almost no one rides them. The only way to get to it is by riding through un-molested woods. I try to go a different way all the time so I don't make a big trail. And my bike is street legal in my county without any registration at all, just buy and ride. So I can ride to the woods also. Just look out and pull off the road.

arlindsay1992 · 03-03-2007, 09:32 PM

Seals? Honda 50s don't have seals. They have little rubber boots that try to keep the dirt out. I end up wiping off the forks after every ride. But now I got some nice oil filled forks. Just need to get a front wheel, disk, and caliper because I don't want to pay for TIG welding so I can use drums. Disks look cooler.

symp · 03-03-2007, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by xr100man

where is the cheapest i can fix my seals and put heavier duty springs? Is fast50s the best way to go?

closest thing to seals are the little rubber o-rings at the bottom of the tube, as for springs, any aftermarket crf springs will fit, i got two bros xr springs and they're great (not as aggressive as the fast50's springs), a pair of aftermarket bushings are a must, stock ones are way too sloppy for some reason

xr100man · 03-03-2007, 09:56 PM

man you are one lucky duck arlindsay1992 how can you possibly get away with street legal? And i meant fork bushings. And the xr springs work without interference member symp? Sorry i am talking to 2 people at once.

arlindsay1992 · 03-03-2007, 10:03 PM

Depends how you think about it. I'm not allowed to run anything more than 50cc.

xr100man · 03-03-2007, 10:15 PM

no plates no nothin? Do you even need a title? Also could you go over how to install fork springs and bushings?

Z50King · 03-03-2007, 10:19 PM

you can transplant all the internals if that hasnt been said. the only main difference is the tabs on the lowers for the fork guards with an xr, and that the brake is on the other side

symp · 03-04-2007, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by xr100man

no plates no nothin? Do you even need a title? Also could you go over how to install fork springs and bushings?

like z50king said, all the parts are interchangeable, no interferance, if you use crf legs (lowers) you just have to flip the wheel

qwoke can ride all over with a 50cc because of his state laws, maybe your state is the same

i wont go over how to install the fork springs and bushings, because its a very simple process, and if you figure it out yourself, you will never forget how to do it, im not trying to be an a$$hole or anything, maybe somebody else will go over it, but its your loss, learning yourself is fun and much more rewarding!

03-03-2007, 05:29 PM	#1 (permalink)
xr100man 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Chicago Burbs Posts: 1,129	Why don't xr/crf clamps fit z50 What is so different that makes a xr/crf clamp not fit a z50? Also has anyone done the xr50 guts in z50 forks?

03-03-2007, 05:30 PM	#2 (permalink)
fittyrider PM Newbie Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Pasadena, C.A. Posts: 48	i believe its cause the forks on z50 are further apart then on an xr/crf50

03-03-2007, 05:32 PM	#3 (permalink)
d0n 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Troy NY Posts: 2,172	I think you can put an xr50 front end on an XR... bolts right up.

03-03-2007, 05:52 PM	#4 (permalink)
general_lee01 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: OHIO Posts: 452	the distance between the to front bolt are widder on the z50. the forks are wider becuase the have fat tires on them and the xr 50 forks are skinner becuase the have skinny tires on them

03-03-2007, 05:52 PM	#5 (permalink)
JCMINIS 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Old fort,NC Posts: 1,069	Tire width is the problem.I think the Z's look cool with the little plastic fork gaurds and the fat tire. Yes the whole front end off of a crf will fit,you just have to use the wheel also..

03-03-2007, 08:35 PM	#7 (permalink)
xr100man 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Chicago Burbs Posts: 1,129	will xr/crf front fork springs fit with all stock z50 legs and tubes and hardware?

03-03-2007, 08:58 PM	#8 (permalink)
arlindsay1992 "High Speed Record Guy" Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 4,369	Yeah. I think that CRF springs have an inch more travel than Z springs. Which just leaves more fork leg exposed which makes them easier to bend. I only have the CRF legs and guards.

03-03-2007, 09:08 PM	#9 (permalink)
xr100man 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Chicago Burbs Posts: 1,129	so how much total do you have in that bike?

03-03-2007, 09:09 PM	#10 (permalink)
xr100man 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Chicago Burbs Posts: 1,129	where is the cheapest i can fix my seals and put heavier duty springs? Is fast50s the best way to go?

03-03-2007, 09:18 PM	#11 (permalink)
arlindsay1992 "High Speed Record Guy" Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 4,369	$1100 I'm guessing. That's not including the purchase price because it was a Christmas gift back in 2004. I've put a lot into it and I'm re-doing a lot now. Well, buying parts so I can redo it when I'm allowed.

03-03-2007, 09:24 PM	#12 (permalink)
xr100man 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Chicago Burbs Posts: 1,129	where do you ride it?

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03-03-2007, 09:30 PM	#13 (permalink)
arlindsay1992 "High Speed Record Guy" Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 4,369	Trails. A cool MTB rider I met on some commonly used trails helped me out and show me some trails that didn't connect to anything so almost no one rides them. The only way to get to it is by riding through un-molested woods. I try to go a different way all the time so I don't make a big trail. And my bike is street legal in my county without any registration at all, just buy and ride. So I can ride to the woods also. Just look out and pull off the road.

03-03-2007, 09:32 PM	#14 (permalink)
arlindsay1992 "High Speed Record Guy" Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 4,369	Seals? Honda 50s don't have seals. They have little rubber boots that try to keep the dirt out. I end up wiping off the forks after every ride. But now I got some nice oil filled forks. Just need to get a front wheel, disk, and caliper because I don't want to pay for TIG welding so I can use drums. Disks look cooler.

03-03-2007, 09:56 PM	#16 (permalink)
xr100man 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Chicago Burbs Posts: 1,129	man you are one lucky duck arlindsay1992 how can you possibly get away with street legal? And i meant fork bushings. And the xr springs work without interference member symp? Sorry i am talking to 2 people at once.

03-03-2007, 10:03 PM	#17 (permalink)
arlindsay1992 "High Speed Record Guy" Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 4,369	Depends how you think about it. I'm not allowed to run anything more than 50cc.

03-03-2007, 10:15 PM	#18 (permalink)
xr100man 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Chicago Burbs Posts: 1,129	no plates no nothin? Do you even need a title? Also could you go over how to install fork springs and bushings?

03-03-2007, 10:19 PM	#19 (permalink)
Z50King 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Upland, Ca, CPP Posts: 9,758 My Mood:	you can transplant all the internals if that hasnt been said. the only main difference is the tabs on the lowers for the fork guards with an xr, and that the brake is on the other side