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cdoublejj · 04-28-2009, 05:01 AM

Thinking about yet another engine upgrade what i have now isn't enough. I'm at 120cc now and if get this,

Honda Trail Bikes

assuming the stroke is really 54mm then it will put me at 137.81

http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.c...2052_129609533

also does the TB cdi make a noticeable power increase i'll get it any way but, was curious.

or maybe there is something all together i can do for yet another wild power increase i guess i'm dead set on 60 some odd mph, guess i feel i really have to show people mini doesn't mean slow.

Oh i'm looking for a stock k4/5/6 z50 head light bucket and maybe the J style do i need a different hub for a J speedo cable how does it work? Reason being the cl70 setup is a sealed bulb so i can't switch out to 12v

firepower354 · 04-28-2009, 05:27 AM

What engine and head?

cdoublejj · 04-28-2009, 10:59 AM

1P54FMI with it's stock head here are some pics

http://www.planetminis.com/14/my-197...ml#post1211706

also has links of the tb stuff i put in, any ball parks on how much power i'm making??
also always did wonder about the carb if it is robbing hp or not, need one that fits.

http://www.planetminis.com/f14/any-o...it-113126.html

cdoublejj · 04-29-2009, 12:10 PM

I was thinking a better carb or jets and bore up plus tb cdi box?

firepower354 · 04-29-2009, 12:20 PM

Carb is likely a hold-back-er. 26mm "real" mm of venturi will open it up.

I don't know for sure what you'd have for a bore of pin size, and wouldn't trust anything but an actual measurement before buying parts.

cdoublejj · 04-29-2009, 04:31 PM

No i'v actually installed parts it is 14mm pin, and currently 52.4 mm bore. also put a cam in.

Z · 04-29-2009, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by cdoublejj

Oh i'm looking for a stock k4/5/6 z50 head light bucket and maybe the J style do i need a different hub for a J speedo cable how does it work? Reason being the cl70 setup is a sealed bulb so i can't switch out to 12v

Tbparts.com sells the headlamp buckets.

J1 style speedo buckets are not cheap. You can purchase an aftermarket 12V unit (J1 style) that comes with the lense and 12V bulb for $150.00

Your run the same hub and get either an 8" or 10" speedo drive and cable that replace the left side spacer if you want to run a speedo.

Easy mod if you have the budget for it.

firepower354 · 04-29-2009, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by cdoublejj

No i'v actually installed parts it is 14mm pin, and currently 52.4 mm bore. also put a cam in.

Ooooh. Not a lot of good pistons for 14mm pin and BV head. TB one will be low compression. Akunar has some good options. I just did a 55mm one with a big nasty dome.

doopsx3 · 04-29-2009, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by firepower354

Ooooh. Not a lot of good pistons for 14mm pin and BV head. TB one will be low compression. Akunar has some good options. I just did a 55mm one with a big nasty dome.

that be even a nastier thumb

firepower354 · 04-29-2009, 05:21 PM

Palmolive.

Doops, you make any vroom-vroom noises with that big lumpy slug, yet?

doopsx3 · 04-29-2009, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by firepower354

Palmolive.

Doops, you make any vroom-vroom noises with that big lumpy slug, yet?

now why would you call my wife that??? nah have yet to mess with it

firepower354 · 04-29-2009, 05:26 PM

Now, I'd never insult our spicy little princess like that

doopsx3 · 04-29-2009, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by firepower354

Now, I'd never insult our spicy little princess like that

We will see how spicy she is when she rides that stroker..probably another girl that all I will be seeing her backside when I race against her with my bike....wait...that is a great view..your idea for a stroker in her bike is perfect...I now do not mind losing at all....u r awesome man..always thinking of me

firepower354 · 04-29-2009, 05:35 PM

Helmet cam view through whoop section, as partial repayment, mmmmm-k?

doopsx3 · 04-29-2009, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by firepower354

Helmet cam view through whoop section, as partial repayment, mmmmm-k?

gotya

cdoublejj · 04-29-2009, 10:43 PM

How much is that piston will it ping when the valves kiss the piston or will it clear? I got the Ahp piston in it now not very noticeable increase of power it's harder to start, i was wondering if that is becasue the stock cam has auto decompress and had some metal clicker thing on it that click against little metal bump on the cam i put the clicker back in any ways cause it seemed to also act asa shim for the rockers.

as far as lights migh/would have been cheaper to go 6v but what they hey mightas well junp on the band wagon and go 12v this bike gets more and more expensive.

blinkers will be 80 bucks and still have to divise a way to mount them up front plus a rear rack will be super expsinse too.

firepower354 · 04-30-2009, 04:26 AM

Piston is under $30, but shipping is steep from Thailand. Ends up at aboot $60. It's made for the Lifan BV head, so it clears fine. Clay it up, anyhow, of course. Shouldn't ping on pump premium. Should be able to find a take-off alloy jug for almost free, and have it bored.

cdoublejj · 04-30-2009, 11:11 AM

60!!! **** thats cheaper than hunk of aluminum in it now!!!! boring is the only real cost. an by take off do you mean oil cooler take off? thats also been planned but neglected.
where can i get one.

firepower354 · 04-30-2009, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by cdoublejj

60!!! **** thats cheaper than hunk of aluminum in it now!!!! boring is the only real cost. an by take off do you mean oil cooler take off? thats also been planned but neglected.
where can i get one.

I meant a jug somebody took off to put on a 146, or something. They're out there, and near free.

Akunar.com, if you wanna order direct. Pretty easy to deal with. Doops will have a performance report on a similar combo, as soon as he stops dunking dollars and starts spinning wrenches...

cdoublejj · 04-30-2009, 11:46 AM

any way to measure my stroke with the jug off. I should be fine with jug i have now right? i'll need a new gasket where should/could i get it from? how far can i bore out my jug i have pic of it the link

http://www.planetminis.com/14/my-197...ml#post1211706

and thats 52.4 stock.

04-28-2009, 05:01 AM	#1 (permalink)
cdoublejj 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: St.Joe MO Posts: 1,367 My Mood:	Will 10cc make a diff??????? Thinking about yet another engine upgrade what i have now isn't enough. I'm at 120cc now and if get this, Honda Trail Bikes assuming the stroke is really 54mm then it will put me at 137.81 http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.c...2052_129609533 also does the TB cdi make a noticeable power increase i'll get it any way but, was curious. or maybe there is something all together i can do for yet another wild power increase i guess i'm dead set on 60 some odd mph, guess i feel i really have to show people mini doesn't mean slow. Oh i'm looking for a stock k4/5/6 z50 head light bucket and maybe the J style do i need a different hub for a J speedo cable how does it work? Reason being the cl70 setup is a sealed bulb so i can't switch out to 12v

04-28-2009, 05:27 AM	#2 (permalink)
firepower354 Advertiser Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Flint MI Posts: 10,989 My Mood:	Re: Will 10cc make a diff??????? What engine and head? __________________ If it has my name on it I did it;) FirepowerMinis.com Custom FPM parts and engines. Parts and service for all makes. Honda Trail Bikes parts and accessories. Pitster/Piranha/Thumpstar bikes, parts, engines and accessories.

04-28-2009, 10:59 AM	#3 (permalink)
cdoublejj 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: St.Joe MO Posts: 1,367 My Mood:	Re: Will 10cc make a diff??????? 1P54FMI with it's stock head here are some pics http://www.planetminis.com/14/my-197...ml#post1211706 also has links of the tb stuff i put in, any ball parks on how much power i'm making?? also always did wonder about the carb if it is robbing hp or not, need one that fits. http://www.planetminis.com/f14/any-o...it-113126.html

04-29-2009, 12:10 PM	#4 (permalink)
cdoublejj 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: St.Joe MO Posts: 1,367 My Mood:	Re: Will 10cc make a diff??????? I was thinking a better carb or jets and bore up plus tb cdi box?

04-29-2009, 12:20 PM	#5 (permalink)
firepower354 Advertiser Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Flint MI Posts: 10,989 My Mood:	Re: Will 10cc make a diff??????? Carb is likely a hold-back-er. 26mm "real" mm of venturi will open it up. I don't know for sure what you'd have for a bore of pin size, and wouldn't trust anything but an actual measurement before buying parts. __________________ If it has my name on it I did it;) FirepowerMinis.com Custom FPM parts and engines. Parts and service for all makes. Honda Trail Bikes parts and accessories. Pitster/Piranha/Thumpstar bikes, parts, engines and accessories.

04-29-2009, 04:31 PM	#6 (permalink)
cdoublejj 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: St.Joe MO Posts: 1,367 My Mood:	Re: Will 10cc make a diff??????? No i'v actually installed parts it is 14mm pin, and currently 52.4 mm bore. also put a cam in.

04-29-2009, 05:21 PM	#10 (permalink)
firepower354 Advertiser Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Flint MI Posts: 10,989 My Mood:	Re: Will 10cc make a diff??????? Palmolive. Doops, you make any vroom-vroom noises with that big lumpy slug, yet? __________________ If it has my name on it I did it;) FirepowerMinis.com Custom FPM parts and engines. Parts and service for all makes. Honda Trail Bikes parts and accessories. Pitster/Piranha/Thumpstar bikes, parts, engines and accessories.

04-29-2009, 05:26 PM	#12 (permalink)
firepower354 Advertiser Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Flint MI Posts: 10,989 My Mood:	Re: Will 10cc make a diff??????? Now, I'd never insult our spicy little princess like that __________________ If it has my name on it I did it;) FirepowerMinis.com Custom FPM parts and engines. Parts and service for all makes. Honda Trail Bikes parts and accessories. Pitster/Piranha/Thumpstar bikes, parts, engines and accessories.

04-29-2009, 05:35 PM	#14 (permalink)
firepower354 Advertiser Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Flint MI Posts: 10,989 My Mood:	Re: Will 10cc make a diff??????? Helmet cam view through whoop section, as partial repayment, mmmmm-k? __________________ If it has my name on it I did it;) FirepowerMinis.com Custom FPM parts and engines. Parts and service for all makes. Honda Trail Bikes parts and accessories. Pitster/Piranha/Thumpstar bikes, parts, engines and accessories.

04-29-2009, 10:43 PM	#16 (permalink)
cdoublejj 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: St.Joe MO Posts: 1,367 My Mood:	Re: Will 10cc make a diff??????? How much is that piston will it ping when the valves kiss the piston or will it clear? I got the Ahp piston in it now not very noticeable increase of power it's harder to start, i was wondering if that is becasue the stock cam has auto decompress and had some metal clicker thing on it that click against little metal bump on the cam i put the clicker back in any ways cause it seemed to also act asa shim for the rockers. as far as lights migh/would have been cheaper to go 6v but what they hey mightas well junp on the band wagon and go 12v this bike gets more and more expensive. blinkers will be 80 bucks and still have to divise a way to mount them up front plus a rear rack will be super expsinse too.

04-30-2009, 04:26 AM	#17 (permalink)
firepower354 Advertiser Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Flint MI Posts: 10,989 My Mood:	Re: Will 10cc make a diff??????? Piston is under $30, but shipping is steep from Thailand. Ends up at aboot $60. It's made for the Lifan BV head, so it clears fine. Clay it up, anyhow, of course. Shouldn't ping on pump premium. Should be able to find a take-off alloy jug for almost free, and have it bored. __________________ If it has my name on it I did it;) FirepowerMinis.com Custom FPM parts and engines. Parts and service for all makes. Honda Trail Bikes parts and accessories. Pitster/Piranha/Thumpstar bikes, parts, engines and accessories.

04-30-2009, 11:11 AM	#18 (permalink)
cdoublejj 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: St.Joe MO Posts: 1,367 My Mood:	Re: Will 10cc make a diff??????? 60!!! **** thats cheaper than hunk of aluminum in it now!!!! boring is the only real cost. an by take off do you mean oil cooler take off? thats also been planned but neglected. where can i get one.

04-30-2009, 11:46 AM	#20 (permalink)
cdoublejj 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: St.Joe MO Posts: 1,367 My Mood:	Re: Will 10cc make a diff??????? any way to measure my stroke with the jug off. I should be fine with jug i have now right? i'll need a new gasket where should/could i get it from? how far can i bore out my jug i have pic of it the link http://www.planetminis.com/14/my-197...ml#post1211706 and thats 52.4 stock.

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