Planet Minis

lowbike1

I heard/read a rumour that fast 50's had a Z50 frame coming out, anyone know anything about that? If its billet and looks anything like there crf frame I'll buy 2

reynolds_brad

C Graft has what your looking for.

I have heard nothing about any fast50s z frame. I dont think they have come out with anything for a z in a while.

Z

What's the point? 99% of the Z50 crowd that rides in the dirt are much too cheap to spend that kind of money on the frame. Plus, you don't hear of Z50 frames breaking.

There are at least 10 aftermarket Z50 frames available in the marketplace..

lowbike1

The point is cause its cool, why do we do anything to these bikes? do you (not you in particular) really need a 124cc DOHC? not really but its fun to say you have it

I saw that they (fast50's) have a new +1 swinger for the Z50's
The G-craft one is too expensive, I figured if fast50's did actually come out with one it would be a neat part to get and slightly more affordable than importing one from overseas.
I run a small minishop up here in Canada and I want to build a real headturner, good advertising

I emailed fast50's about it, just waiting for a reply, thought I'd throw out to the forum

SprNtrl

Lowbike, are you talking about this swingarm:

http://fast50s.com/cart/customer/pro...6&cat=3&page=3

Its not a "new" product, pretty sure they had it on the we site for the better part of a couple of years or more. For not much more, you can get a nicer swingarm out of Japan.

And yes, I am a cheapskate Z50 owner for the most part :P

Z

You won't be after you graduate from College and make good money. Being young and being cheap are two different things.. You don't have the opportunity to spend large amounts of cash at the moment because you don't have disposable income. And you are a Canuck.

RAZZO

Z50 riders cheapskates? Think not. Looks like the cheapest thing to ride is a CRF or a China bike. CRF are lame. Everyone looks the same. Wow different graphics on this one! Think out of the box. Try being creative an build an old Z50 up. Will cost much more than a XR/CRF.

By the way, I may be producing chrome-moly Z50 hardtail and softtail frames with Craig at Fast50's. We were discussing the idea at Vegas last week. Long live the Z50!

dirtbkr188

WOW...gonna take quite a while to wring out the profiling in THAT one...!

SprNtrl

Don't worry, no one was bashing the good'ol Z50. I agree with you though, the CRF's are very monotonous - everyone's is pretty much the same. I've seen more TB 88 kits than I can shake a stick at. Thats one of the many things I like about the Z50/Monkey/ZBs is that they are all different from each other, and its refreshing.

Im wondering if the Z50 market is strong enough here in NA to actually be worth Fast50's and your time to produce a domestic aftermarket frame for the Z50. How are Fast50's other Z50 specific parts selling?

reynolds_brad

SO true, i parted out my custom dirt50 to fund my monkey project and it only provided enough to buy the suspension i wanted. Lol

jigracing

The Z50 started it all for me. Four 50's later and I'm still dumping money into my Z and it is still the funnest one of them all to ride!!!

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Pinky

Uh, I would other than the fact that no Z that i have seen can handle 80ft gaps. BTW, I own a Z, a '78. But more people ride crf's because most of the mini crowd evolved from people actually using "pitbikes" for... well... pitbikes. I used to race the outdoor series, and back then had a pimped out pw50 for a pit bike, and other people had other weird rides and then someone would try to top the next guy, etc. most of the US mini crowd came from the dirt, this is why most ride in the dirt and the Z sucks in the dirt. period.

RAZZO

The Z50 is the o.g. dirt mini. The XR/CRF is unrideable compared to the Z in stock form. Anyone over the age of 6 can't ride in stock form. A Z50 you can. Yes CRF'S are better in the dirt if you mod them. Handlebar kit, shocks, fork springs, better tires, etc.... A stock 1975 Z50 will bury a stock CRF50. Because you won't be able to fit on it unless your a jockey. CRF'S stock are the Harley's of dirt. Wobbly old sheds!

Pinky

yeah, but who leaves them stock??

lowbike1

See! I told you
I want a billet one though, maybe a Chromoly +2" but billet would be better, the G-craft is too expensive, over $2000 CDN easy

Crf's arent lame, just not quite the caliber of the Z's unless you build a Crf with a set of Z50 tires which will solve a lot of the crf's esthetic problems I think

I sold my Pitster to concentrate on building my Z

Z

I'd take the over frame before the G-craft frame..

FastMC

This is a good thread. I like them both CRF's and Z's but to me the CRF is more of a dispose-a-bike. Z50's are keepers. I'll never part with my Z50's

FastMC

Is that frame set up for mono or twin shock??

Z

BOTH!

Pinky

wow, you just flip the swinger over??