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MonkeyBusiness · 10-19-2009, 12:30 PM

Hi,
this is my first post on this forum, i also have a one owner from new English Z50M but i bought this yesterday and i am unsure of the model, have a look at the pictures

Z · 10-19-2009, 12:35 PM

Looks to have parts from many bikes. If it's an M, it's going to need alot of parts to look like an M again. What's the serial number on the frame?

MonkeyBusiness · 10-19-2009, 12:46 PM

errrmmmm, isn't the vin number on the transmission side of the bike on the plate connecting to the engine

Xare50 · 10-19-2009, 12:48 PM

maybe on the head tube

MonkeyBusiness · 10-19-2009, 12:49 PM

errrmmmm, isn't the vin number on the transmission side of the bike on the plate connecting to the engine because there's a homemade aluminium chain guard in the way, it also has a 60mph speedo and an 89cc engine which are a newer addition. it is mentioned as a 1963 on the documents which has to be wrong. It was imported into England in 1980 so it is a foreign model

MonkeyBusiness · 10-19-2009, 12:56 PM

the 1963/1964 docs are because the vin is C100-H026995

MonkeyBusiness · 10-19-2009, 12:59 PM

so basically i think it is a Z50m with various Z50 bits registered as a 1963 honda c100, which explains the 89cc engine

nielspbr · 10-19-2009, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonkeyBusiness

so basically i think it is a Z50m with various Z50 bits registered as a 1963 honda c100, which explains the 89cc engine

C100 has only a 50cc engine (a C100 is a pushrod cub)

Godfried · 10-19-2009, 01:42 PM

As far as I can see from the pics:
Z50M frame, forks, wheels, mudguards, tail light, ...
The older type C90 engine
Z50A seat
Handlebars (and maybe headlight) from Z50A K3 or onwards
Home-made exhaust (maybe a shortend CT70/ST50/70 exhaust?)

Cheers,
Godfried

MonkeyBusiness · 10-19-2009, 02:39 PM

ok, thanks guys, would still be interesting to know more and anyone english on wether i could reregister it as a Z50M, also, country of origin?

MonkeyBusiness · 10-19-2009, 03:38 PM

the sppedometer goes up to 60mph and also has the honda monkey Hm insignia on the face, where does htis part originate from?

MonkeyBusiness · 10-20-2009, 06:34 AM

the old VIN has been filled with lots of red paint but it clearly begins with Z50M so its a z50m frame

retrominis · 10-22-2009, 09:44 PM

[QUOTE=MonkeyBusiness;1429618]the 1963/1964 docs are because the vin is C100-H026995[/QUOTE
this frame number matches the vin code honda cz100,ill have to double check that ',maybe you have the
wrong papers ,any close up photos of the headlight bucket and speedo

HardTails · 10-25-2009, 08:22 PM

I think its a z50m with a bunch of barts from other honda bikes, I think this bike is kinda rare isnt it?

MonkeyBusiness · 10-25-2009, 08:54 PM

so it's shaping up to be a z50m frame with a c90 engine registered as a 1963 cz100? various parts from other models aswell, more idenfication needed from experts

z50 chopper · 10-25-2009, 10:19 PM

It looks like someone did what ever they could to keep the bike on the road, it is call good ol' fashioned ingenuity nothing rare about that. Some of the parts are rarer than others or more uncommon than others thats about it. The bike is obviously not a cz100, the papers you have are obviously for a different bike.

10-19-2009, 12:30 PM	#1 (permalink)
MonkeyBusiness PM Newbie Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 14 My Mood:	Z50 Mystery Model Help!?!?!?!?????? Hi, this is my first post on this forum, i also have a one owner from new English Z50M but i bought this yesterday and i am unsure of the model, have a look at the pictures Attached Thumbnails

10-19-2009, 12:35 PM	#2 (permalink)
Z 5th Gear Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: KANSAS Posts: 8,541	Re: Z50 Mystery Model Help!?!?!?!?????? Looks to have parts from many bikes. If it's an M, it's going to need alot of parts to look like an M again. What's the serial number on the frame?

10-19-2009, 12:46 PM	#3 (permalink)
MonkeyBusiness PM Newbie Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 14 My Mood:	Re: Z50 Mystery Model Help!?!?!?!?????? errrmmmm, isn't the vin number on the transmission side of the bike on the plate connecting to the engine

10-19-2009, 12:48 PM	#4 (permalink)
Xare50 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: stockton Posts: 403 My Mood:	Re: Z50 Mystery Model Help!?!?!?!?????? maybe on the head tube

10-19-2009, 12:49 PM	#5 (permalink)
MonkeyBusiness PM Newbie Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 14 My Mood:	Re: Z50 Mystery Model Help!?!?!?!?????? errrmmmm, isn't the vin number on the transmission side of the bike on the plate connecting to the engine because there's a homemade aluminium chain guard in the way, it also has a 60mph speedo and an 89cc engine which are a newer addition. it is mentioned as a 1963 on the documents which has to be wrong. It was imported into England in 1980 so it is a foreign model

10-19-2009, 12:56 PM	#6 (permalink)
MonkeyBusiness PM Newbie Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 14 My Mood:	Re: Z50 Mystery Model Help!?!?!?!?????? the 1963/1964 docs are because the vin is C100-H026995

10-19-2009, 12:59 PM	#7 (permalink)
MonkeyBusiness PM Newbie Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 14 My Mood:	Re: Z50 Mystery Model Help!?!?!?!?????? so basically i think it is a Z50m with various Z50 bits registered as a 1963 honda c100, which explains the 89cc engine

10-19-2009, 01:42 PM	#9 (permalink)
Godfried PM Newbie Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Belgium Posts: 51	Re: Z50 Mystery Model Help!?!?!?!?????? As far as I can see from the pics: Z50M frame, forks, wheels, mudguards, tail light, ... The older type C90 engine Z50A seat Handlebars (and maybe headlight) from Z50A K3 or onwards Home-made exhaust (maybe a shortend CT70/ST50/70 exhaust?) Cheers, Godfried

10-19-2009, 02:39 PM	#10 (permalink)
MonkeyBusiness PM Newbie Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 14 My Mood:	Re: Z50 Mystery Model Help!?!?!?!?????? ok, thanks guys, would still be interesting to know more and anyone english on wether i could reregister it as a Z50M, also, country of origin?

10-19-2009, 03:38 PM	#11 (permalink)
MonkeyBusiness PM Newbie Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 14 My Mood:	Re: Z50 Mystery Model Help!?!?!?!?????? the sppedometer goes up to 60mph and also has the honda monkey Hm insignia on the face, where does htis part originate from?

10-20-2009, 06:34 AM	#12 (permalink)
MonkeyBusiness PM Newbie Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 14 My Mood:	Re: Z50 Mystery Model Help!?!?!?!?????? the old VIN has been filled with lots of red paint but it clearly begins with Z50M so its a z50m frame

10-22-2009, 09:44 PM	#13 (permalink)
retrominis PM Newbie Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: noosa australia Posts: 11	Re: Z50 Mystery Model Help!?!?!?!?????? [QUOTE=MonkeyBusiness;1429618]the 1963/1964 docs are because the vin is C100-H026995[/QUOTE this frame number matches the vin code honda cz100,ill have to double check that ',maybe you have the wrong papers ,any close up photos of the headlight bucket and speedo

10-25-2009, 08:22 PM	#14 (permalink)
HardTails PM Newbie Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Comox Vancouver Island Canada Posts: 2	Re: Z50 Mystery Model Help!?!?!?!?????? I think its a z50m with a bunch of barts from other honda bikes, I think this bike is kinda rare isnt it?

10-25-2009, 08:54 PM	#15 (permalink)
MonkeyBusiness PM Newbie Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 14 My Mood:	Re: Z50 Mystery Model Help!?!?!?!?????? so it's shaping up to be a z50m frame with a c90 engine registered as a 1963 cz100? various parts from other models aswell, more idenfication needed from experts

10-25-2009, 10:19 PM	#16 (permalink)
z50 chopper 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Nanaimo, BC, Canada Posts: 504 My Mood:	Re: Z50 Mystery Model Help!?!?!?!?????? It looks like someone did what ever they could to keep the bike on the road, it is call good ol' fashioned ingenuity nothing rare about that. Some of the parts are rarer than others or more uncommon than others thats about it. The bike is obviously not a cz100, the papers you have are obviously for a different bike.

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