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oilspot · 06-09-2007, 07:35 AM

How does a z50 with a longer swing arm behave in the dirt. Does it make it more ridable.
I've seen some different pictures of z50 with longer swing arms that look like they were welded... any info on stretching them (I can figure it out, but if people have already done it, it leaves less to figure out)
I've also seen that people are putting better springs in the front... where can I get them??? Are ct70 fork extensions longer? If so could I use them on a z50?

1life2live · 06-09-2007, 07:47 AM

this has been covered several times but here it goes, you can use a longer swingarm from a cr 75 that are on ebay alot. all you have to do is shave down the mounting spot on the frame so it will fit. you can also cut and extend your stock swinger which has also been done on here just do a search. classic honda (chpminis) also sells aluminum extended swingarms as well as fast 50s. as far as the front end you can use xr/crf 50 +1 fork legs and stiffer spring kit with the heavy duty bushings from any of the major aftermarket 50 sellers. hope this answers your question

RAZZO · 06-09-2007, 05:31 PM

I think you covered it! LOL.

oilspot · 06-09-2007, 07:35 PM

lots of reading through threads about what size shocks work with what lengths. I havent' seen anything yet about lengthing the existing arm, or how the bike will behave on the longer swingarm.
I guess I'll just keep reading.

Z50King · 06-09-2007, 08:23 PM

click on my name, click view public profile, and click on view all threads z50king has started

youll find pics of my swinger in a thread, i even photoshopped one of them to show you how i did it

Z50King · 06-09-2007, 08:25 PM

look at post #9 if you cant figure out the above...

http://www.planetminis.com/f14/new-p...z50-54468.html

RAZZO · 06-09-2007, 08:59 PM

It will be a vast improvement. Have used +2 Kitaco swingers, +4 and XR75 swingers. Your Z50 will be less wheelie prone if your running a big motor so it will charge harder out the corners. Must better handling due to longer wheelbase. And the plus of having put better rear shocks on it. Combo it with the HD springs,delron bushings and maybe +1 fork legs and it will rock. Here is one I did. This has the Kitaco +2 swinger.

madmartigan · 06-10-2007, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by RAZZO

It will be a vast improvement. Have used +2 Kitaco swingers, +4 and XR75 swingers. Your Z50 will be less wheelie prone if your running a big motor so it will charge harder out the corners. Must better handling due to longer wheelbase. And the plus of having put better rear shocks on it. Combo it with the HD springs,delron bushings and maybe +1 fork legs and it will rock. Here is one I did. This has the Kitaco +2 swinger.

that seat doesnt fit down any further on the gas tank? i almost bought one of those seats is why i ask.

RAZZO · 06-10-2007, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by madmartigan

that seat doesnt fit down any further on the gas tank? i almost bought one of those seats is why i ask.

I'm 6'2'' so I have it adjusted back and up as possible as I could get it. There are two mounting postions for the front bracket on it. I have it on the leading one. If you used the other the seat would be closer to the tank. Rear bracket slide adjustment.

d0n · 06-10-2007, 07:23 AM

The XR and XL 75 swingarms are known to fit. There are probably others out there that will fit. Someone here did an awesome lengthening job on a stock Z50 swingarm. I forget who it was. It looked like a lot of work compared to mounting up a 4" longer honda 75 swingarm though.

here's an XL75 swinger on a Z50R

oilspot · 06-10-2007, 11:38 AM

Cool! I've got a small lathe and a welder. Now I've just got to do some reading on shock geomety, available shocks, etc to figure out how I want to set everthing up.

Z50King · 06-11-2007, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by d0n

Someone here did an awesome lengthening job on a stock Z50 swingarm. I forget who it was. It looked like a lot of work compared to mounting up a 4" longer honda 75 swingarm though.

duh, me....

d0n · 06-11-2007, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Z50King

duh, me....

Someone else did it too.

1life2live · 06-11-2007, 10:24 AM

+4 swinger you can use 330-305mm shocks. +2 280mm shocks. i have a xr75 swinger and started with 330mm but didnt like the way it felt and the shocks seemed to raked out so i moved the shock mounts on the swinger forward an inch and ended up running 305mm works alot better.

arlindsay1992 · 06-14-2007, 03:14 PM

I have the XR75 swingarm and use the 335mm reproduction CT70 shocks from TB. They are nice. They seem to "break in." They are real stiff at first but now they are fine. I don't know if it was just me or what. But I'm happy with them.

Click here for my shocks

This is my bike.

06-09-2007, 07:35 AM	#1 (permalink)
oilspot 1st Gear Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: las cruces, new mexico Posts: 230	z50 swingarm questions How does a z50 with a longer swing arm behave in the dirt. Does it make it more ridable. I've seen some different pictures of z50 with longer swing arms that look like they were welded... any info on stretching them (I can figure it out, but if people have already done it, it leaves less to figure out) I've also seen that people are putting better springs in the front... where can I get them??? Are ct70 fork extensions longer? If so could I use them on a z50?

06-09-2007, 07:47 AM	#2 (permalink)
1life2live 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: finksburg, md Posts: 290	Re: z50 swingarm questions this has been covered several times but here it goes, you can use a longer swingarm from a cr 75 that are on ebay alot. all you have to do is shave down the mounting spot on the frame so it will fit. you can also cut and extend your stock swinger which has also been done on here just do a search. classic honda (chpminis) also sells aluminum extended swingarms as well as fast 50s. as far as the front end you can use xr/crf 50 +1 fork legs and stiffer spring kit with the heavy duty bushings from any of the major aftermarket 50 sellers. hope this answers your question

06-09-2007, 05:31 PM	#3 (permalink)
RAZZO Old School Z50s Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: NEW JERSEY PINELANDS Posts: 1,971 My Mood:	Re: z50 swingarm questions I think you covered it! LOL.

06-09-2007, 07:35 PM	#4 (permalink)
oilspot 1st Gear Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: las cruces, new mexico Posts: 230	Re: z50 swingarm questions lots of reading through threads about what size shocks work with what lengths. I havent' seen anything yet about lengthing the existing arm, or how the bike will behave on the longer swingarm. I guess I'll just keep reading.

06-09-2007, 08:23 PM	#5 (permalink)
Z50King 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Upland, Ca, CPP Posts: 9,758 My Mood:	Re: z50 swingarm questions click on my name, click view public profile, and click on view all threads z50king has started youll find pics of my swinger in a thread, i even photoshopped one of them to show you how i did it

06-09-2007, 08:25 PM	#6 (permalink)
Z50King 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Upland, Ca, CPP Posts: 9,758 My Mood:	Re: z50 swingarm questions look at post #9 if you cant figure out the above... http://www.planetminis.com/f14/new-p...z50-54468.html

06-09-2007, 08:59 PM	#7 (permalink)
RAZZO Old School Z50s Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: NEW JERSEY PINELANDS Posts: 1,971 My Mood:	Re: z50 swingarm questions It will be a vast improvement. Have used +2 Kitaco swingers, +4 and XR75 swingers. Your Z50 will be less wheelie prone if your running a big motor so it will charge harder out the corners. Must better handling due to longer wheelbase. And the plus of having put better rear shocks on it. Combo it with the HD springs,delron bushings and maybe +1 fork legs and it will rock. Here is one I did. This has the Kitaco +2 swinger. Attached Thumbnails

06-10-2007, 07:23 AM	#10 (permalink)
d0n 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Troy NY Posts: 2,172	Re: z50 swingarm questions The XR and XL 75 swingarms are known to fit. There are probably others out there that will fit. Someone here did an awesome lengthening job on a stock Z50 swingarm. I forget who it was. It looked like a lot of work compared to mounting up a 4" longer honda 75 swingarm though. here's an XL75 swinger on a Z50R Last edited by d0n; 06-10-2007 at 07:27 AM.

06-10-2007, 11:38 AM	#11 (permalink)
oilspot 1st Gear Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: las cruces, new mexico Posts: 230	Re: z50 swingarm questions Cool! I've got a small lathe and a welder. Now I've just got to do some reading on shock geomety, available shocks, etc to figure out how I want to set everthing up.

06-11-2007, 10:24 AM	#14 (permalink)
1life2live 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: finksburg, md Posts: 290	Re: z50 swingarm questions +4 swinger you can use 330-305mm shocks. +2 280mm shocks. i have a xr75 swinger and started with 330mm but didnt like the way it felt and the shocks seemed to raked out so i moved the shock mounts on the swinger forward an inch and ended up running 305mm works alot better.

06-14-2007, 03:14 PM	#15 (permalink)
arlindsay1992 "High Speed Record Guy" Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 4,369	Re: z50 swingarm questions I have the XR75 swingarm and use the 335mm reproduction CT70 shocks from TB. They are nice. They seem to "break in." They are real stiff at first but now they are fine. I don't know if it was just me or what. But I'm happy with them. Click here for my shocks This is my bike.

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