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conway52 · 08-27-2009, 01:41 AM

just bought a pretty much new 110 and am turning it into a stock mod, had a couple questions...

FORKS
im putting the bbr dampening rods and heavy fork springs in.. what oil level do you guys recomend? I saw the stock level is 90mm but what about with this stuff in the forks? Also i have heard some remarks of the heavy fork springs being a bit rigid.. should i run one heavy and one stock or what is your input on this?

MOTOR

How many cc's of oil do you run in the motor? Also what valve clearance is ran on a stock motor?

conway52 · 08-27-2009, 02:19 PM

Nobody??

Paxracing · 08-27-2009, 02:21 PM

1 Quart of oil and we do valve at .004 intake and ex.

conway52 · 08-27-2009, 02:24 PM

Awesome thank you! what about the forks.. 90mm of oil? or what would you recomend?

BBR Motorsports · 08-27-2009, 02:33 PM

How much do you weigh and how aggressive are you??
Sometimes damping rods and both HD springs are too much.

Paxracing · 08-27-2009, 02:36 PM

We use 30 wt castrol oil

conway52 · 08-27-2009, 02:38 PM

I weigh about 170 and i am a professional motocross rider? so i guess pretty aggressive

BBR Motorsports · 08-27-2009, 02:42 PM

That helps.......

So 170lb and fast = both HD springs and 180cc of 30wt per leg.

mturner2 · 08-27-2009, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by conway52

I weigh about 170 and i am a professional motocross rider? so i guess pretty aggressive

i would do the bbr dampening rods, 1 bbr stiff spring, 1 stock, use 10wt silkolene and fill each fork leg 90mm from the top (3.5in) when the fork is compressed and the spring out

JohnSBA · 08-27-2009, 02:44 PM

I've recently searched all the threads on this site, and the consensus seems to be that the damping rods, thick oil and both HD springs are *REALLY* stiff, even for a 170 - 190lbs rider. The recommendation is to install 1 spring first with 20wt oil, see how that feels, if still too soft, put in 2nd spring, and then tune oil (heavier/lighter) from there.

disclaimer: I have not ridden any of these combos myself and am only passing along collective wisdom.

conway52 · 08-27-2009, 02:45 PM

Awesome! thank you guys for all the input and help!!

s3kshunz · 08-28-2009, 10:43 AM

I run one hd bbr spring. 10 wt. And tbr damping rods. I'm 180 lbs and beat the $hit out of my bike. I recently changed to modded tbr rods tbr mild springs and 10wt with. Racetech emulators. Which I like 100 percent better. I changed the loction of the suggested holes for the damping rods

Z50King · 08-28-2009, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BBR Motorsports

That helps.......

So 170lb and fast = both HD springs and 180cc of 30wt per leg.

I have never heard a volume of oil suggested for damping rods, but 180cc sounds right. Race Tech once had a chart that said the stock 110 forks took 150cc of oil each, but it was taken down

conway52 · 08-28-2009, 11:34 PM

one more thing... what is the ticket to removing swingarm bearings? i am having a few things powder coated and need the bearings out.. have tried having them pressed out and they dont wanna budge.. any suggestions?

Ktm640 · 11-02-2009, 06:22 AM

Use this method it worked a treat for me and mine were proper rusted in there.

Find which socket sizes are the best and i beleive mine were a 20mm and a 27mm and push and pull the bushing out no probs.

08-27-2009, 01:41 AM	#1 (permalink)
conway52 PM Newbie Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Carson City Nevada Posts: 66	couple 110 tech questions just bought a pretty much new 110 and am turning it into a stock mod, had a couple questions... FORKS im putting the bbr dampening rods and heavy fork springs in.. what oil level do you guys recomend? I saw the stock level is 90mm but what about with this stuff in the forks? Also i have heard some remarks of the heavy fork springs being a bit rigid.. should i run one heavy and one stock or what is your input on this? MOTOR How many cc's of oil do you run in the motor? Also what valve clearance is ran on a stock motor?

08-27-2009, 02:19 PM	#2 (permalink)
conway52 PM Newbie Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Carson City Nevada Posts: 66	Re: couple 110 tech questions Nobody??

08-27-2009, 02:21 PM	#3 (permalink)
Paxracing 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: ca Posts: 5,518 My Mood:	Re: couple 110 tech questions 1 Quart of oil and we do valve at .004 intake and ex.

08-27-2009, 02:24 PM	#4 (permalink)
conway52 PM Newbie Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Carson City Nevada Posts: 66	Re: couple 110 tech questions Awesome thank you! what about the forks.. 90mm of oil? or what would you recomend?

08-27-2009, 02:33 PM	#5 (permalink)
BBR Motorsports Advertiser Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Auburn, WA, USA Posts: 158	Re: couple 110 tech questions How much do you weigh and how aggressive are you?? Sometimes damping rods and both HD springs are too much. __________________ BBR Motorsports Planet Minis Members..... "Favorite Aftermarket Pit-bike Company"

08-27-2009, 02:36 PM	#6 (permalink)
Paxracing 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: ca Posts: 5,518 My Mood:	Re: couple 110 tech questions We use 30 wt castrol oil

08-27-2009, 02:38 PM	#7 (permalink)
conway52 PM Newbie Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Carson City Nevada Posts: 66	Re: couple 110 tech questions I weigh about 170 and i am a professional motocross rider? so i guess pretty aggressive

08-27-2009, 02:42 PM	#8 (permalink)
BBR Motorsports Advertiser Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Auburn, WA, USA Posts: 158	Re: couple 110 tech questions That helps....... So 170lb and fast = both HD springs and 180cc of 30wt per leg. __________________ BBR Motorsports Planet Minis Members..... "Favorite Aftermarket Pit-bike Company"

08-27-2009, 02:44 PM	#10 (permalink)
JohnSBA PM Newbie Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 82	Re: couple 110 tech questions I've recently searched all the threads on this site, and the consensus seems to be that the damping rods, thick oil and both HD springs are REALLY stiff, even for a 170 - 190lbs rider. The recommendation is to install 1 spring first with 20wt oil, see how that feels, if still too soft, put in 2nd spring, and then tune oil (heavier/lighter) from there. disclaimer: I have not ridden any of these combos myself and am only passing along collective wisdom.

08-27-2009, 02:45 PM	#11 (permalink)
conway52 PM Newbie Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Carson City Nevada Posts: 66	Re: couple 110 tech questions Awesome! thank you guys for all the input and help!!

08-28-2009, 10:43 AM	#12 (permalink)
s3kshunz PM Newbie Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: the meadows texas Posts: 70	Re: couple 110 tech questions I run one hd bbr spring. 10 wt. And tbr damping rods. I'm 180 lbs and beat the $hit out of my bike. I recently changed to modded tbr rods tbr mild springs and 10wt with. Racetech emulators. Which I like 100 percent better. I changed the loction of the suggested holes for the damping rods

08-28-2009, 11:34 PM	#14 (permalink)
conway52 PM Newbie Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Carson City Nevada Posts: 66	Re: couple 110 tech questions one more thing... what is the ticket to removing swingarm bearings? i am having a few things powder coated and need the bearings out.. have tried having them pressed out and they dont wanna budge.. any suggestions? Last edited by conway52; 08-28-2009 at 11:41 PM.

11-02-2009, 06:22 AM	#15 (permalink)
Ktm640 PM Newbie Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Uk Hampshire Posts: 63 My Mood:	Re: couple 110 tech questions Use this method it worked a treat for me and mine were proper rusted in there. Find which socket sizes are the best and i beleive mine were a 20mm and a 27mm and push and pull the bushing out no probs.

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