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Frank21x · 11-08-2009, 08:15 PM

well today was the groundbreaking moment i've worked the past months on getting this dang bike done. after riding it for about an hour, I stopped off at my truck for a break and discovered that I have a leak at the seal on the output shaft. pleease tell me this doesn't involve splitting cases to punch that seal out.. it's still going to be ridden leaking or not next weekend on my trip down to socal. it isnt much of a leak, more of a seep, but it's leaking. what is this going to involve?

firepower354 · 11-08-2009, 08:28 PM

Super easy. Pops right out. You can pluck it out with a dental pick, seal pick, drywall screw. Avoid nicking the case. New one pushes right back in. Lay it on the right side and not even have to drain the oil.

OIL SEAL,SC22325 92049-1048 under $5 from the Green Guys, $2 fron alternate sources. 22x32x5 seal is common.

JohnnyB · 11-08-2009, 08:33 PM

Get a new collar and o-ring while your at it .

Frank21x · 11-08-2009, 08:55 PM

thank you guys very much! I can guarantee my Kawi dealership doesn't have it in stock so I'll just have to do it when I get back from the trip.

firepower354 · 11-08-2009, 09:06 PM

Check the local bearing shop in the Yellow pages, Google the "22x32x5 seal", check around. It's a very common size, for wheels too.

firepower354 · 11-08-2009, 09:07 PM

Or... consider it an "Automatic Chain Oiler"???

bmsklx · 11-10-2009, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by firepower354

Or... consider it an "Automatic Chain Oiler"???

i like that

way2fast4u7 · 11-10-2009, 05:16 PM

just a thought, but you may want to consider one of those vented tappet covers. i think mini mob has them. helps the motor vent a bit. i put one on my bike after going through a couple of those seals. and it helped a lot. i think it has a lot to do with the added air volume/ velocity from a big bore... can't all escape out the factory vent tube so it needs to get out somewhere. and i doubt the seals are that high quality coming out of taiwan (i think total brain loss... i could get off the couch and look but that equals work)

JohnnyB · 11-10-2009, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by way2fast4u7

just a thought, but you may want to consider one of those vented tappet covers. i think mini mob has them. helps the motor vent a bit. i put one on my bike after going through a couple of those seals. and it helped a lot. i think it has a lot to do with the added air volume/ velocity from a big bore... can't all escape out the factory vent tube so it needs to get out somewhere. and i doubt the seals are that high quality coming out of taiwan (i think total brain loss... i could get off the couch and look but that equals work)

I have breathers on all my bikes ..

And the last seal I lost , leak'd because the the metal collar was rusted / pitted and messed up the seal ...
IMO -- It needs to be made of stainless ..

Stupid collar thing ...

bmsklx · 11-10-2009, 07:01 PM

possibly to much blow by or seal damaged also the little o-ring behind it maybe gone or damaged

Frank21x · 11-11-2009, 12:28 AM

I thought about those vents but figured it wasnt needed for a 143. I can see it on the 165s and up but didn't figure my motor needed it, but heck every little bit helps. I'm tired of working on this motor, it needs to get ridden!

Frank21x · 11-17-2009, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyB

Get a new collar and o-ring while your at it .

what o-ring are you talking about? I'm looking at that diagram Terry posted and it just shows the seal collar #92049 and a bearing on the opposite side. I haven't pulled it out yet to see what all is in there so I'm going from the schematic(sp?)

bmsklx · 11-17-2009, 06:49 PM

i dont know how to post a pic but if you go to cheapcycleparts.com look up oem parts for klx 110 go under transmission and you will see an exploded view from sprocket,outputshaft,then behind case collar and o-ring good luck

minichopperfan · 11-17-2009, 07:12 PM

Sounds to me like you put to much oil in it.

11-08-2009, 08:15 PM	#1 (permalink)
Frank21x 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Lodi, California Posts: 681 My Mood:	output shaft seal well today was the groundbreaking moment i've worked the past months on getting this dang bike done. after riding it for about an hour, I stopped off at my truck for a break and discovered that I have a leak at the seal on the output shaft. pleease tell me this doesn't involve splitting cases to punch that seal out.. it's still going to be ridden leaking or not next weekend on my trip down to socal. it isnt much of a leak, more of a seep, but it's leaking. what is this going to involve?

11-08-2009, 08:28 PM	#2 (permalink)
firepower354 Advertiser Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Flint MI Posts: 11,858 My Mood:	Re: output shaft seal Super easy. Pops right out. You can pluck it out with a dental pick, seal pick, drywall screw. Avoid nicking the case. New one pushes right back in. Lay it on the right side and not even have to drain the oil. OIL SEAL,SC22325 92049-1048 under $5 from the Green Guys, $2 fron alternate sources. 22x32x5 seal is common. __________________ If it has my name on it I did it;) FirepowerMinis.com 810-237-9537 M-F 9-6 Custom FPM parts and engines. Parts and service for all makes. Honda Trail Bikes parts and accessories. Piranha/Medina/Thumpstar bikes, parts, engines and accessories. Last edited by firepower354; 11-08-2009 at 08:33 PM.

11-08-2009, 08:33 PM	#3 (permalink)
JohnnyB 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: CT . aaaaaah .... heh heh heh .. Posts: 5,100 My Mood:	Re: output shaft seal Get a new collar and o-ring while your at it . Last edited by JohnnyB; 11-08-2009 at 09:13 PM.

11-08-2009, 08:55 PM	#4 (permalink)
Frank21x 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Lodi, California Posts: 681 My Mood:	Re: output shaft seal thank you guys very much! I can guarantee my Kawi dealership doesn't have it in stock so I'll just have to do it when I get back from the trip.

11-08-2009, 09:06 PM	#5 (permalink)
firepower354 Advertiser Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Flint MI Posts: 11,858 My Mood:	Re: output shaft seal Check the local bearing shop in the Yellow pages, Google the "22x32x5 seal", check around. It's a very common size, for wheels too. __________________ If it has my name on it I did it;) FirepowerMinis.com 810-237-9537 M-F 9-6 Custom FPM parts and engines. Parts and service for all makes. Honda Trail Bikes parts and accessories. Piranha/Medina/Thumpstar bikes, parts, engines and accessories.

11-08-2009, 09:07 PM	#6 (permalink)
firepower354 Advertiser Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Flint MI Posts: 11,858 My Mood:	Re: output shaft seal Or... consider it an "Automatic Chain Oiler"??? __________________ If it has my name on it I did it;) FirepowerMinis.com 810-237-9537 M-F 9-6 Custom FPM parts and engines. Parts and service for all makes. Honda Trail Bikes parts and accessories. Piranha/Medina/Thumpstar bikes, parts, engines and accessories.

11-10-2009, 05:16 PM	#8 (permalink)
way2fast4u7 1st Gear Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Grande Prairie Posts: 159 My Mood:	Re: output shaft seal just a thought, but you may want to consider one of those vented tappet covers. i think mini mob has them. helps the motor vent a bit. i put one on my bike after going through a couple of those seals. and it helped a lot. i think it has a lot to do with the added air volume/ velocity from a big bore... can't all escape out the factory vent tube so it needs to get out somewhere. and i doubt the seals are that high quality coming out of taiwan (i think total brain loss... i could get off the couch and look but that equals work)

11-10-2009, 07:01 PM	#10 (permalink)
bmsklx 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: fontana Posts: 492 My Mood:	Re: output shaft seal possibly to much blow by or seal damaged also the little o-ring behind it maybe gone or damaged

11-11-2009, 12:28 AM	#11 (permalink)
Frank21x 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Lodi, California Posts: 681 My Mood:	Re: output shaft seal I thought about those vents but figured it wasnt needed for a 143. I can see it on the 165s and up but didn't figure my motor needed it, but heck every little bit helps. I'm tired of working on this motor, it needs to get ridden!

11-17-2009, 06:49 PM	#13 (permalink)
bmsklx 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: fontana Posts: 492 My Mood:	Re: output shaft seal i dont know how to post a pic but if you go to cheapcycleparts.com look up oem parts for klx 110 go under transmission and you will see an exploded view from sprocket,outputshaft,then behind case collar and o-ring good luck

11-17-2009, 07:12 PM	#14 (permalink)
minichopperfan 1st Gear Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Anthony Florida Posts: 239	Re: output shaft seal Sounds to me like you put to much oil in it.

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