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Staggs Racing · 05-11-2008, 06:27 PM

Here are some pictures of these sub tanks the ER boys / OGM riders were testing before and at vegas. Alittle more testing will be done and then they will go into production.

mr.699 · 05-11-2008, 07:01 PM

How much will they run?

Crashkid · 05-11-2008, 07:20 PM

The guys love them so far. I think they will fit pitsters, thumpstars, and some other brands also.

Staggs Racing · 05-11-2008, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by mr.699

How much will they run?

this is being worked on right now.

Staggs Racing · 05-11-2008, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Crashkid

The guys love them so far. I think they will fit pitsters, thumpstars, and some other brands also.

yeah they should fit Pitster,SSR,thumpstar etc with the similar or same forks. I want to see if they will work on marzocchi's as well.

Crashkid · 05-11-2008, 07:26 PM

^^^^ I have a set of zocchi's. I can let you know if they fit.

alexficco · 05-11-2008, 07:55 PM

what do they do?

Harmon237 · 05-11-2008, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by alexficco

what do they do?

yeahh??
alot of people i know have them on big bikes so im just curious what they actually do besides hold more fork oil

magiksc · 05-11-2008, 08:11 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe it keeps the oil cycling through so the oil does not heat up so fast, cause when the oil heats up the forks will fade and not perform as well. At least thats how it is in off road desert racing. Basically like a remote reservoir like you can see on my truck:

SCAR8 · 05-11-2008, 08:18 PM

I thought I read somewhere that they help absorb smaller bumps/hits etc also if they are set up right?

magiksc · 05-11-2008, 08:41 PM

Might do that as well, I'm no suspension specialist.

keith42 · 05-11-2008, 08:53 PM

Totally different than a shock reservoir, nothing trick about the subtanks themselves it's the same as a large air gap or air volume in the fork tube. What can make these set ups trick is how you control the volume of air allowed to enter and exit the tank. Same as a shock nothing trick about oil moving thru holes it's how you control that oil that's trick.

On factory MXer's they've messed with these for decades. The factories used them to help tune their forks.

Harmon237 · 05-11-2008, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by magiksc

Might do that as well, I'm no suspension specialist.

I think you are right magik.
any other pics of your truck??
im really into prerunners

magiksc · 05-11-2008, 09:15 PM

I'll pm you some. Don't want to jack staggs thread.

CJsDad · 05-11-2008, 10:03 PM

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it's the same as a large air gap or air volume in the fork tube. What can make these set ups trick is how you control the volume of air allowed to enter and exit the tank.

One thing different with these compared to a lot of the others is, they have clicker adjustments to control the feel of them. We have them on my sons KTM65 and he loves them. Makes the front feel real plush over small bumps but stiffer on the big jumps.

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Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe it keeps the oil cycling through so the oil does not heat up so fast,

No actuall oil goes into the tanks but it does let you run more oil in your forks with out making them stiffer.

keith42 · 05-11-2008, 10:05 PM

what do the clickers adjust?

CJsDad · 05-11-2008, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by keith42

what do the clickers adjust?

T
The valving in the tank that controls the air moving thru them.

magiksc · 05-11-2008, 10:13 PM

I wasn't aware of the other adjuster. So basically they give another form of external adjustment?

shw911 · 05-11-2008, 10:43 PM

That's pretty cool.

trailpimp33 · 05-11-2008, 11:24 PM

Sub tanks allow the forks to be "tricked" into thinking they are running a low oil height. This makes the forks feel softer throughout the stroke without sacrificing your bottom control. All they do is increase the air chamber volume, this way the air does not compress as much giving a more supple feel. A rear shock works differently in that the air (or nitrogen) and oil are completely seperated. The resivoir in a shock works by allowing the displaced oil to compress a piston or bladder that is held under pressure. Because the oil volume of a shock is much less than that of a fork it must be held under pressure to adapt to changing temps and the resulting changes the oil undergoes.

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magiksc 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Somewhere between Heaven and Hell... Hemet/Provo Posts: 3,684 My Mood:	Re: Subtanks For Sgr Forks Coming Soon! Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe it keeps the oil cycling through so the oil does not heat up so fast, cause when the oil heats up the forks will fade and not perform as well. At least thats how it is in off road desert racing. Basically like a remote reservoir like you can see on my truck: Last edited by magiksc; 05-11-2008 at 08:18 PM.

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keith42 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: sumner, wa Posts: 461	Re: Subtanks For Sgr Forks Coming Soon! Totally different than a shock reservoir, nothing trick about the subtanks themselves it's the same as a large air gap or air volume in the fork tube. What can make these set ups trick is how you control the volume of air allowed to enter and exit the tank. Same as a shock nothing trick about oil moving thru holes it's how you control that oil that's trick. On factory MXer's they've messed with these for decades. The factories used them to help tune their forks. Last edited by keith42; 05-11-2008 at 08:57 PM.

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magiksc 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Somewhere between Heaven and Hell... Hemet/Provo Posts: 3,684 My Mood:	Re: Subtanks For Sgr Forks Coming Soon! I wasn't aware of the other adjuster. So basically they give another form of external adjustment?

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trailpimp33 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,654	Re: Subtanks For Sgr Forks Coming Soon! Sub tanks allow the forks to be "tricked" into thinking they are running a low oil height. This makes the forks feel softer throughout the stroke without sacrificing your bottom control. All they do is increase the air chamber volume, this way the air does not compress as much giving a more supple feel. A rear shock works differently in that the air (or nitrogen) and oil are completely seperated. The resivoir in a shock works by allowing the displaced oil to compress a piston or bladder that is held under pressure. Because the oil volume of a shock is much less than that of a fork it must be held under pressure to adapt to changing temps and the resulting changes the oil undergoes.

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