Planet Minis

kawasakicoby125 · 07-01-2009, 04:35 PM

ok, itseems i have to reword my question. if you could buy parts tha would adress major flaws in your china bike, what part would you buy, that already hasnt been made.

Wraith · 07-01-2009, 04:58 PM

kawisaki boy, ill be transparent with you. China bikes are put together like a half fast trailer. they always loose nuts and bolts. im always having to lock tite all my crap. and even then i lost 2 screws yesterday. its terrible. i will never buy a china bike again. im afraid to ride my bike because of this kind of stuff.

Harvester · 07-01-2009, 04:59 PM

I got a couple 'Import Bikes' They're made by a lil company named Suzuki. My only complaint is that they need to work on frame design, they are too weak and bend like a dog leash..

Now, I know you meant CHINA Bikes, so I'm going to go with research and design/development all together. They always have tried to copy other countries/products/ideas without paying for or putting any R&D into it.

It's just like the new anti-pirating software "they developed" and forced manufacturers to use for a short time. They stole the code from another company, did no R&D and it blew up.

Not that any of that matters to big red, it's always been quantity vs. quality.

monaghan · 07-01-2009, 05:02 PM

the wheels dont line up with each other

THOSE GUYS RACING · 07-01-2009, 05:05 PM

Hardware

kawasakicoby125 · 07-01-2009, 05:09 PM

so you guys are saying the hard wear. you guys would pay for better hard wear?

JJW Designs · 07-01-2009, 05:19 PM

Easy. Hardware. Poor quality nuts and bolts.... overall mostly just grade of metals. If they stepped up the grade of steel and aluminum in their transmissions, nuts, swingarms...etc. They'd be fine. They're getting precision down pretty good, just poor quality metals keep hampering them IMO.

THOSE GUYS RACING · 07-01-2009, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by kawasakicoby125

so you guys are saying the hard wear. you guys would pay for better hard wear?

I think with better hardware there would be fewer complaints with things breaking and bringing attention to the bikes (just my thought) we just ordered a pister lxr 12" and were really impressed with it

THOSE GUYS RACING · 07-01-2009, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJW Designs

Easy. Hardware. Poor quality nuts and bolts.... overall mostly just grade of metals. If they stepped up the grade of steel and aluminum in their transmissions, nuts, swingarms...etc. They'd be fine. They're getting precision down pretty good, just poor quality metals keep hampering them IMO.

your right nuts and bolts im sorry.

tysonb · 07-01-2009, 05:28 PM

The nut's and bolts are always an issue with china bikes, I think it's how their disposing of their unwanted lead now that they can't put it in childrens toys anymore.

If you know this then 5 bucks in locktite and a few hours will keep you happy in the china bike world.

THOSE GUYS RACING · 07-01-2009, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tysonb

The nut's and bolts are always an issue with china bikes, I think it's how their disposing of their unwanted lead now that they can't put it in childrens toys anymore.

If you know this then 5 bucks in locktite and a few hours will keep you happy in the china bike world.

im thininking thats all it needs also

chasetheface123 · 07-01-2009, 05:31 PM

I say its the people that back up the bikes. Some people wont warrenty things even if they come with defects. Some chineese companys dont stand behind their products at all! Pitster and motovert are great. So are most distribuing companys like pax and staggs.

Grafixxs · 07-01-2009, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJW Designs

Easy. Hardware. Poor quality nuts and bolts.... overall mostly just grade of metals. If they stepped up the grade of steel and aluminum in their transmissions, nuts, swingarms...etc. They'd be fine. They're getting precision down pretty good, just poor quality metals keep hampering them IMO.

PERFECT post, I couldn't have said it better.

magiksc · 07-01-2009, 05:43 PM

Add bearings to the list! Its funny that no one has mentioned any design issues but china bikes seem to always to hammered about how crappy the geometry is.

So most of us can agree about materials mainly.

mitchcroghan952 · 07-01-2009, 05:48 PM

GRIPS!!!!!
hhahahhahhaaaaa

gncc_jake · 07-01-2009, 05:53 PM

+1 on the grips...more like plastic than rubber, damn near impossible to remove without cuttin em off

gncc_jake · 07-01-2009, 05:59 PM

Oh...how about tires, there gone in no time, if you don't manage to rip a hole in them. and the rubber valve stems...i think most of them are metal now but a while back they were all rubber and it didn't take anything to rip them off.

kawasakicoby125 · 07-01-2009, 05:59 PM

i undersatnd all of this. but i am wondering what PRODUCT can adress what everyone wants fixed in a chinease bike?

gncc_jake · 07-01-2009, 06:01 PM

Mainly they just need to stop throwing pop cans in the melting pot

trackstar · 07-01-2009, 06:08 PM

I think the biggest issue with China bikes is people NOT getting what they thought they bought. Theres so much piracy and copied product that you can never be sure what your really getting.

I mean c'mon... Shivers for $400? While most of us know that you arent getting real Shivers for $400 a lot of people dont. How many different factories are making the "same" motor? You can get on the business to business websites and order containers of Pitster Pro X4's, SSR's and all the other "name brands". KTM's and many others are available as well. They arent the real deal but if you buy one of these fakes how do you know?

07-01-2009, 04:35 PM	#1 (permalink)
kawasakicoby125 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Lynnwood, WA Posts: 2,356 My Mood:	the biggest flaws in import bikes... ok, itseems i have to reword my question. if you could buy parts tha would adress major flaws in your china bike, what part would you buy, that already hasnt been made. Last edited by kawasakicoby125; 07-01-2009 at 08:27 PM.

07-01-2009, 04:58 PM	#2 (permalink)
Wraith 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: rio rancho , NM Posts: 449 My Mood:	Re: the biggest flaws in import bikes... kawisaki boy, ill be transparent with you. China bikes are put together like a half fast trailer. they always loose nuts and bolts. im always having to lock tite all my crap. and even then i lost 2 screws yesterday. its terrible. i will never buy a china bike again. im afraid to ride my bike because of this kind of stuff.

07-01-2009, 04:59 PM	#3 (permalink)
Harvester 1st Gear Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Atlanta Posts: 103	Re: the biggest flaws in import bikes... I got a couple 'Import Bikes' They're made by a lil company named Suzuki. My only complaint is that they need to work on frame design, they are too weak and bend like a dog leash.. Now, I know you meant CHINA Bikes, so I'm going to go with research and design/development all together. They always have tried to copy other countries/products/ideas without paying for or putting any R&D into it. It's just like the new anti-pirating software "they developed" and forced manufacturers to use for a short time. They stole the code from another company, did no R&D and it blew up. Not that any of that matters to big red, it's always been quantity vs. quality.

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monaghan 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 959 My Mood:	Re: the biggest flaws in import bikes... the wheels dont line up with each other

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THOSE GUYS RACING 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: costa mesa ca. Posts: 1,044 My Mood:	Re: the biggest flaws in import bikes... Hardware

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kawasakicoby125 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Lynnwood, WA Posts: 2,356 My Mood:	Re: the biggest flaws in import bikes... so you guys are saying the hard wear. you guys would pay for better hard wear?

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JJW Designs Advertiser Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Battle Ground, WA Posts: 3,366	Re: the biggest flaws in import bikes... Easy. Hardware. Poor quality nuts and bolts.... overall mostly just grade of metals. If they stepped up the grade of steel and aluminum in their transmissions, nuts, swingarms...etc. They'd be fine. They're getting precision down pretty good, just poor quality metals keep hampering them IMO. __________________ Graphic designer by trade, rider by heart.

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tysonb I heart MotoVert Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Craigville, Indiana Posts: 1,321 My Mood:	Re: the biggest flaws in import bikes... The nut's and bolts are always an issue with china bikes, I think it's how their disposing of their unwanted lead now that they can't put it in childrens toys anymore. If you know this then 5 bucks in locktite and a few hours will keep you happy in the china bike world.

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chasetheface123 Chuck Norris for president! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Boyne City Michigan Posts: 4,811 My Mood:	Re: the biggest flaws in import bikes... I say its the people that back up the bikes. Some people wont warrenty things even if they come with defects. Some chineese companys dont stand behind their products at all! Pitster and motovert are great. So are most distribuing companys like pax and staggs.

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magiksc 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Somewhere between Heaven and Hell... Hemet/Provo Posts: 3,499 My Mood:	Re: the biggest flaws in import bikes... Add bearings to the list! Its funny that no one has mentioned any design issues but china bikes seem to always to hammered about how crappy the geometry is. So most of us can agree about materials mainly. Last edited by magiksc; 07-01-2009 at 05:46 PM.

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mitchcroghan952 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Utah Posts: 1,327	Re: the biggest flaws in import bikes... GRIPS!!!!! hhahahhahhaaaaa

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gncc_jake 1st Gear Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Marietta, Ohio Posts: 207 My Mood:	Re: the biggest flaws in import bikes... +1 on the grips...more like plastic than rubber, damn near impossible to remove without cuttin em off

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gncc_jake 1st Gear Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Marietta, Ohio Posts: 207 My Mood:	Re: the biggest flaws in import bikes... Oh...how about tires, there gone in no time, if you don't manage to rip a hole in them. and the rubber valve stems...i think most of them are metal now but a while back they were all rubber and it didn't take anything to rip them off.

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kawasakicoby125 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Lynnwood, WA Posts: 2,356 My Mood:	Re: the biggest flaws in import bikes... i undersatnd all of this. but i am wondering what PRODUCT can adress what everyone wants fixed in a chinease bike?

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gncc_jake 1st Gear Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Marietta, Ohio Posts: 207 My Mood:	Re: the biggest flaws in import bikes... Mainly they just need to stop throwing pop cans in the melting pot

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07-01-2009, 06:08 PM	#20 (permalink)
trackstar 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Roy Utah Posts: 372 My Mood:	Re: the biggest flaws in import bikes... I think the biggest issue with China bikes is people NOT getting what they thought they bought. Theres so much piracy and copied product that you can never be sure what your really getting. I mean c'mon... Shivers for $400? While most of us know that you arent getting real Shivers for $400 a lot of people dont. How many different factories are making the "same" motor? You can get on the business to business websites and order containers of Pitster Pro X4's, SSR's and all the other "name brands". KTM's and many others are available as well. They arent the real deal but if you buy one of these fakes how do you know? Last edited by trackstar; 07-01-2009 at 06:32 PM.