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Pitsterpro x2 2008 · 06-03-2009, 09:32 AM

Hi all,

I'm looking for a new engine for my pitsterpro x2 with 140 gpx

So I was looking around and I found the new lifan 150cc and the daytona 150cc

Which one is better and why, one thing that really matters for me is the clutch and gearbox.

Thanks

Blackwoodz · 06-03-2009, 10:04 AM

The Pitster 155Z has better numbers than either.

Pitsterpro x2 2008 · 06-03-2009, 10:24 AM

can you tell me where to find this engine?

Could you give me some info about the lifan and daytona?

Blackwoodz · 06-03-2009, 10:28 AM

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can you tell me where to find this engine?

155 Z Crate Engine

Pitsterpro x2 2008 · 06-03-2009, 10:30 AM

And why is this engine better? better hp, or clutch??

I don't like the service of pitsterpro, so that is a problem

Blackwoodz · 06-03-2009, 10:33 AM

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I don't like the service of pitsterpro, so that is a problem

Sorry to here that. Not sure how you could not like being take of.
Good luck

Pitsterpro x2 2008 · 06-03-2009, 10:34 AM

Is the clutch ok? because the clutch of the gpx sucks, I changed it twice in a year!! and I change oil every 5hours

Blackwoodz · 06-03-2009, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by themountain

as much as I like the Zonger...don^t be a guinee pig...get the lifan150..cheap as chips and reliable !!

If I had the money and needed an engine I would be the guinea pig as you call it because I believe the engine is the best crate motor being built right now. I would have liked to seen a oil filter but besides that the motor look likes a winner...Heck the Dirtmax YX engine had been out almost two years with great reviews when I got it and found how flawed it was. But after some internal modification of my 160 I have not had any more issues with it.

Pitsterpro x2 2008 · 06-03-2009, 10:44 AM

Clutch and the plates of the lifan, and can I buy a stronger one?

Blackwoodz · 06-03-2009, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Pitsterpro x2 2008

Is the clutch ok? because the clutch of the gpx sucks, I changed it twice in a year!! and I change oil every 5hours

The clutch in the GPX..the Lifan 150..the daytona 150....the YX engines...and the zonger all basically the same. Maybe you need to upgrade to the Kevlar plates and HD springs......you do understand you need to leave end play in your clutch cable or you will fry plates correct?

Pitsterpro x2 2008 · 06-03-2009, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Blackwoodz

The clutch in the GPX..the Lifan 150..the daytona 150....the YX engines...and the zonger all basically the same. Maybe you need to upgrade to the Kevlar plates and HD springs......you do understand you need to leave end play in your clutch cable or you will fry plates correct?

Yes you can push the handle for 5mm without pulling the cable

Blackwoodz · 06-03-2009, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by themountain

the complete clutch or the plates...??Get the lifan with a TB billet clutch and kevlarplates and your problems are history !

The TB billet basket is just about bling...nothing else..just get better fibers and springs

Blackwoodz · 06-03-2009, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Pitsterpro x2 2008

Yes you can push the handle for 5mm without pulling the cable

if you mean the lever..5mm is not even close to enough....check it at the cable..can you move the end of the cable at the perch adjuster 5mm of end play? if so that is ok.

Blackwoodz · 06-03-2009, 10:55 AM

Why they are Mikes baskets......

I am like U I tellum like I seeyum. Hey if you want the bling buy it but if you want the performance at a good price..... just buy the good fibers......

Blackwoodz · 06-03-2009, 11:03 AM

Most guyz here do not pay any attention to what WE say Mountain
In one ear and out the other.......

Pitsterpro x2 2008 · 06-03-2009, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Blackwoodz

if you mean the lever..5mm is not even close to enough....check it at the cable..can you move the end of the cable at the perch adjuster 5mm of end play? if so that is ok.

Is that where the cable goes into the cover, and what do you mean with 5mm end play?

mattmoto441 · 06-03-2009, 08:08 PM

You also need to adjust the clutch when hot, not cold, it will expand and will take out the slack as it moves the pressure plate and backing plate apart and closer to the actuator, then when you park it, the next day it will have alot of slack, you then adjust it and when it heats up it is too tight and starts to slip and will smoke the clutch. always deal with a loose clutch until it is warm.

as for the engine choice,, the PP155z will walk on both without trying, it is not new, as we have been testing them hard since last November giving out input and getting new samples, each one was better and better than the last until this final version was ready.
They start easy, have great power, also have the newest version of the Molkt carb with a 6mm deeper float bowl. a better ignition and much higher quality castings (also the engine is made at the same factory as the Daytona)

kawik01 · 06-03-2009, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Blackwoodz

The clutch in the GPX..the Lifan 150..the daytona 150....the YX engines...and the zonger all basically the same. Maybe you need to upgrade to the Kevlar plates and HD springs......you do understand you need to leave end play in your clutch cable or you will fry plates correct?

oh **** how fast will that fry your plates? ****!!! i didnt know that omg

TBparts · 06-04-2009, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Blackwoodz

The TB billet basket is just about bling...nothing else..just get better fibers and springs

No, was made because of the stock clutch disintegrating dampers, stripped teeth, and broken baskets. There are piles of them littered throughout shops. Do a search on PM to see all the problems people had with the stock clutch and it wasnt simply a matter of using better plates.

Blackwoodz · 06-04-2009, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by TBparts

No, was made because of the stock clutch disintegrating dampers, stripped teeth, and broken baskets. There are piles of them littered throughout shops. Do a search on PM to see all the problems people had with the stock clutch and it wasnt simply a matter of using better plates.

Well maybe the earlier versions but the 08 versions did not have the disintegrating rubbers......$200 is crazy for that setup and if you look at the rubbers in them it is not even designed correctly. And if they wanted to make it just a performance parts they would not made it out of anodized red aluminum......thats bling and made to try and justify selling a $100 parts for $200.
believe what you want

06-03-2009, 09:32 AM	#1 (permalink)
Pitsterpro x2 2008 PM Newbie Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 14	Lifan 150cc (daytona look) or daytona 150cc Hi all, I'm looking for a new engine for my pitsterpro x2 with 140 gpx So I was looking around and I found the new lifan 150cc and the daytona 150cc Which one is better and why, one thing that really matters for me is the clutch and gearbox. Thanks

06-03-2009, 10:04 AM	#2 (permalink)
Blackwoodz 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: SC Michigan Posts: 3,626	Re: Lifan 150cc (daytona look) or daytona 150cc The Pitster 155Z has better numbers than either.

06-03-2009, 10:24 AM	#3 (permalink)
Pitsterpro x2 2008 PM Newbie Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 14	Re: Lifan 150cc (daytona look) or daytona 150cc can you tell me where to find this engine? Could you give me some info about the lifan and daytona?

06-03-2009, 10:30 AM	#5 (permalink)
Pitsterpro x2 2008 PM Newbie Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 14	Re: Lifan 150cc (daytona look) or daytona 150cc And why is this engine better? better hp, or clutch?? I don't like the service of pitsterpro, so that is a problem

06-03-2009, 10:34 AM	#7 (permalink)
Pitsterpro x2 2008 PM Newbie Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 14	Re: Lifan 150cc (daytona look) or daytona 150cc Is the clutch ok? because the clutch of the gpx sucks, I changed it twice in a year!! and I change oil every 5hours

06-03-2009, 10:44 AM	#9 (permalink)
Pitsterpro x2 2008 PM Newbie Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 14	Re: Lifan 150cc (daytona look) or daytona 150cc Clutch and the plates of the lifan, and can I buy a stronger one?

06-03-2009, 10:55 AM	#14 (permalink)
Blackwoodz 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: SC Michigan Posts: 3,626	Re: Lifan 150cc (daytona look) or daytona 150cc Why they are Mikes baskets...... I am like U I tellum like I seeyum. Hey if you want the bling buy it but if you want the performance at a good price..... just buy the good fibers......

06-03-2009, 11:03 AM	#15 (permalink)
Blackwoodz 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: SC Michigan Posts: 3,626	Re: Lifan 150cc (daytona look) or daytona 150cc Most guyz here do not pay any attention to what WE say Mountain In one ear and out the other.......

06-03-2009, 08:08 PM	#17 (permalink)
mattmoto441 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: unknown Posts: 1,891 My Mood:	Re: Lifan 150cc (daytona look) or daytona 150cc You also need to adjust the clutch when hot, not cold, it will expand and will take out the slack as it moves the pressure plate and backing plate apart and closer to the actuator, then when you park it, the next day it will have alot of slack, you then adjust it and when it heats up it is too tight and starts to slip and will smoke the clutch. always deal with a loose clutch until it is warm. as for the engine choice,, the PP155z will walk on both without trying, it is not new, as we have been testing them hard since last November giving out input and getting new samples, each one was better and better than the last until this final version was ready. They start easy, have great power, also have the newest version of the Molkt carb with a 6mm deeper float bowl. a better ignition and much higher quality castings (also the engine is made at the same factory as the Daytona)

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