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ibmike13 · 03-09-2008, 10:48 PM

Dont you think the KLX style top end on that new 150 Lifan bottom end (minus the long stroke) with the daytona style clutch would be buy far the best impot engine yet?
These dealers need to Get it Done!!!!

fatcaaat · 03-10-2008, 07:10 AM

Depends on how you plan to ride it. For the street, I'd much prefer the longer stroke. For racing, I'd prefer the shorter stroke.

The Lifan 150 would be my preferred motor over the YX because I'd put it in a streetbike. Also, there is really no point in the outer rotor system on a dirt bike.

blocksta594 · 03-10-2008, 07:13 AM

its already being done I will have them for Vegas

blocksta594 · 03-10-2008, 07:16 AM

sorry heres a pic

ibmike13 · 03-10-2008, 07:37 AM

Is that a honda type top in though, does look like a KLX head or oil system?,i ment a redesign in china with the XY stroke and top end with the lifan daytona clutch

theporkster · 03-10-2008, 07:39 AM

dont leave it there with a couple of teasing pics whats the spec klx stud pattern /cc /price manafacture etc etc

ibmike13 · 03-10-2008, 07:41 AM

Im getting one when they come out, one of the first one hopefully.if they have the KLX/Daytona combo.

dougtrip · 03-10-2008, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by blocksta594

sorry heres a pic

that's not klx style top end. there's an external bolt on the chain side were a klx has two internal.

ryan2282 · 03-10-2008, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ibmike13

Im getting one when they come out, one of the first one hopefully.if they have the KLX/Daytona combo.

So your getting back into pitbikes? and what chassis will you have?

firepower354 · 03-10-2008, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by theporkster

dont leave it there with a couple of teasing pics whats the spec klx stud pattern /cc /price manafacture etc etc

Just a dorky cam cover on a China pattern motor, with the cool clutch. The Lifan 150 is $1000 cheaper.

ibmike13 · 03-10-2008, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by blocksta594

sorry heres a pic

I think thats a Honda +R type head which would be good to on a Big CC engine with like a 55 to 57mm stroke and 57 to 60mm bore with the daytona style clutch.

Kurlon · 03-10-2008, 08:57 AM

That's a Daytona 'T-Rex' motor, either a 125 or 150. It's basically their stab at a Jialing 125 style stud spacing motor with a gussied up BVH.

ibmike13 · 03-10-2008, 09:00 AM

Looks like a Honda +R head with crazy cam cover, but if they put bigger valves and redigned ports on the BVH it should be a great head, i mean the BVH are pretty good aready.

Kurlon · 03-10-2008, 09:07 AM

Where are you getting the +R? I see oblong tappet covers, but those have been around on Honda heads for ages. Think 3v heads, Polini 4v, older Takegawa Superheads, etc. AFAIK there hasn't been any mention of roller rockers on T-Rex motors. I don't think they went bigger than 27/23 on the valves either. I'll have to see if I can find the PitPro .pdf I had with the pre-availability announcement specs...

Being a Daytona/Chitona, it's going to be a spendy motor. For the cost you'd likely be able to build a +R headed YX150 or Lifan 160 that'd walk all over it, and still have cash left over, so for now I'm not all that excited about these units. The only interesting thing is the clutch cover, and now that Lifan's cloning it, the parts will eventually be available to mount it on other import motors.

Heck, you can do the conversion right now using a combination of a few Honda bits, a spacer plate from Xtreme, and your choice of Tak, Kitaco, or Daytona clutch covers.

ibmike13 · 03-10-2008, 09:15 AM

oh i didnt know it was like that, Yah im talking Lifan daytona clutch with KLX stroke and top end so The XY with the Lifan Daytona style cover, thats what im talking about and still pretty cheap.

KURLON, Do you think that new lifan 150 is a good engine, i was thinking about getting one adding 28/24 valves, Z40, and port job, and a bigger high compression piston would be nice.

HACKMUNCH · 03-10-2008, 09:35 AM

get the yx150 mike, you wont be sorry trust me.

Kurlon · 03-10-2008, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ibmike13

KURLON, Do you think that new lifan 150 is a good engine, i was thinking about getting one adding 28/24 valves, Z40, and port job, and a bigger high compression piston would be nice.

I haven't had a chance to play with one personally, so I can only assume they're no worse than the Lifan 120s I'm used to?

ibmike13 · 03-10-2008, 09:38 AM

Hack i sent you a PM.
I really like the YX but i cant stand those GPX clutch cover, i mean i hate um, dam oil slings suck and they stick way out. If the YX came with the lifan daytona cover without sling id buy one today.

Its probably already being made, so im on the fence about buy either now, but how long till they come out with this combo?
Im sure SGR, or Pister have some idea.

THE 59MM stroke kinda sucks on the lifan to.

HACKMUNCH · 03-10-2008, 09:44 AM

pm responded to, just keep the info on the "down low" please.

03-09-2008, 10:48 PM	#1 (permalink)
ibmike13 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Romulus,Michigan Posts: 4,414	XY top end on Lifan daytona Style lowwer end? Dont you think the KLX style top end on that new 150 Lifan bottom end (minus the long stroke) with the daytona style clutch would be buy far the best impot engine yet? These dealers need to Get it Done!!!!

03-10-2008, 07:10 AM	#2 (permalink)
fatcaaat 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 3,778	Re: XY top end on Lifan daytona Style lowwer end? Depends on how you plan to ride it. For the street, I'd much prefer the longer stroke. For racing, I'd prefer the shorter stroke. The Lifan 150 would be my preferred motor over the YX because I'd put it in a streetbike. Also, there is really no point in the outer rotor system on a dirt bike.

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ibmike13 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Romulus,Michigan Posts: 4,414	Re: XY top end on Lifan daytona Style lowwer end? Is that a honda type top in though, does look like a KLX head or oil system?,i ment a redesign in china with the XY stroke and top end with the lifan daytona clutch

03-10-2008, 07:39 AM	#6 (permalink)
theporkster 1st Gear Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 159	Re: XY top end on Lifan daytona Style lowwer end? dont leave it there with a couple of teasing pics whats the spec klx stud pattern /cc /price manafacture etc etc

03-10-2008, 07:41 AM	#7 (permalink)
ibmike13 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Romulus,Michigan Posts: 4,414	Re: XY top end on Lifan daytona Style lowwer end? Im getting one when they come out, one of the first one hopefully.if they have the KLX/Daytona combo.

03-10-2008, 08:57 AM	#12 (permalink)
Kurlon Super Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Windham, ME Posts: 8,301	Re: XY top end on Lifan daytona Style lowwer end? That's a Daytona 'T-Rex' motor, either a 125 or 150. It's basically their stab at a Jialing 125 style stud spacing motor with a gussied up BVH.

03-10-2008, 09:00 AM	#13 (permalink)
ibmike13 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Romulus,Michigan Posts: 4,414	Re: XY top end on Lifan daytona Style lowwer end? Looks like a Honda +R head with crazy cam cover, but if they put bigger valves and redigned ports on the BVH it should be a great head, i mean the BVH are pretty good aready.

03-10-2008, 09:07 AM	#14 (permalink)
Kurlon Super Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Windham, ME Posts: 8,301	Re: XY top end on Lifan daytona Style lowwer end? Where are you getting the +R? I see oblong tappet covers, but those have been around on Honda heads for ages. Think 3v heads, Polini 4v, older Takegawa Superheads, etc. AFAIK there hasn't been any mention of roller rockers on T-Rex motors. I don't think they went bigger than 27/23 on the valves either. I'll have to see if I can find the PitPro .pdf I had with the pre-availability announcement specs... Being a Daytona/Chitona, it's going to be a spendy motor. For the cost you'd likely be able to build a +R headed YX150 or Lifan 160 that'd walk all over it, and still have cash left over, so for now I'm not all that excited about these units. The only interesting thing is the clutch cover, and now that Lifan's cloning it, the parts will eventually be available to mount it on other import motors. Heck, you can do the conversion right now using a combination of a few Honda bits, a spacer plate from Xtreme, and your choice of Tak, Kitaco, or Daytona clutch covers. Last edited by Kurlon; 03-10-2008 at 09:10 AM.

03-10-2008, 09:15 AM	#15 (permalink)
ibmike13 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Romulus,Michigan Posts: 4,414	Re: XY top end on Lifan daytona Style lowwer end? oh i didnt know it was like that, Yah im talking Lifan daytona clutch with KLX stroke and top end so The XY with the Lifan Daytona style cover, thats what im talking about and still pretty cheap. KURLON, Do you think that new lifan 150 is a good engine, i was thinking about getting one adding 28/24 valves, Z40, and port job, and a bigger high compression piston would be nice. Last edited by ibmike13; 03-10-2008 at 09:18 AM.

03-10-2008, 09:35 AM	#16 (permalink)
HACKMUNCH 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: BRUNSWICK OHIO Posts: 5,239	Re: XY top end on Lifan daytona Style lowwer end? get the yx150 mike, you wont be sorry trust me.

03-10-2008, 09:38 AM	#18 (permalink)
ibmike13 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Romulus,Michigan Posts: 4,414	Re: XY top end on Lifan daytona Style lowwer end? Hack i sent you a PM. I really like the YX but i cant stand those GPX clutch cover, i mean i hate um, dam oil slings suck and they stick way out. If the YX came with the lifan daytona cover without sling id buy one today. Its probably already being made, so im on the fence about buy either now, but how long till they come out with this combo? Im sure SGR, or Pister have some idea. THE 59MM stroke kinda sucks on the lifan to. Last edited by ibmike13; 03-10-2008 at 09:41 AM.

03-10-2008, 09:44 AM	#19 (permalink)
HACKMUNCH 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: BRUNSWICK OHIO Posts: 5,239	Re: XY top end on Lifan daytona Style lowwer end? pm responded to, just keep the info on the "down low" please.

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