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ksteder · 02-18-2009, 09:49 PM

hey guys, im restoring a zb 50 and looking for new good reliable engine. ive browsed through ebay and found several brands clamming to be the best, zongsten, jialing and so on. Im looking for a air or oil cooled 125 4spd mannual. thanks

speeddemon619 · 02-19-2009, 12:54 AM

Any particular reason for stickin at 125? just curious because you can get some bigger motors for a little bit more money but proboly be happier in the long run

s_10onbagz · 02-19-2009, 02:09 AM

lifan 150.

tmas · 02-19-2009, 05:21 AM

Do up the ZB motor.
tmas

Z · 02-19-2009, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by tmas

Do up the ZB motor.
tmas

Todd,

Please expand on this since you've owned numerous ZB's with different engine combinations.

ksteder · 02-19-2009, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by speeddemon619

Any particular reason for stickin at 125? just curious because you can get some bigger motors for a little bit more money but proboly be happier in the long run

not really i just dont have to much money but im up for any size

firepower354 · 02-19-2009, 02:26 PM

Put me down as a Lifan 150 supporter. You'd spend thousands to have a Honda with comparable all-around performance.

ksteder · 02-19-2009, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by firepower354

Put me down as a Lifan 150 supporter. You'd spend thousands to have a Honda with comparable all-around performance.

how much am i looking at for one of those guys.

tmas · 02-19-2009, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ksteder

how much am i looking at for one of those guys.

The lifan 150 is $550. But you have to buy a lightning coil to run the lights on the ZB($50-$75 extra), I am not even sure they have a lightning coil for the 150. Second point, the Lifan 150 will not have the neutral switch in the case so the neutral light on the speedometer will not work when in neutral.
tmas

TBolt USA, LLC » Engines » Lifan 50-150 Engines » Lifan 150 Engine

tmas · 02-19-2009, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Z

Please expand on this since you've owned numerous ZB's with different engine combinations.

You need a lightning coil to run the lights and the Honda coil will never let you down. You can also keep the harness connections original.
If you build the original ZB Honda motor up the bike will hold its value. The serial numbers will match. The ZB is very rare.
If you decide to put a Chinese motor in your ZB.... KEEP the stock motor and carb (do not sell it).
They are some real nice and not that expensive kits from Trail Bikes that work on the ZB motor (12 volt, CDI motor. same kits as crf and xr) that will give you excellent reliability. 88cc, 108cc and if you want to case bore it 117cc. You have to decide on a clutch, either manual or automatic and that is more money. You can also upgrade to a Honda 4 speed transmission for not that much cash.
tmas

mikev · 02-19-2009, 04:28 PM

Are the TB kits chinese parts?

tmas · 02-19-2009, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mikev

Are the TB kits chinese parts?

Taiwan parts.

mikev · 02-19-2009, 04:34 PM

Got it.

firepower354 · 02-19-2009, 06:27 PM

Entire ZB ignition swaps on to the lump of one's choosing, too, right?

tmas · 02-19-2009, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by firepower354

Entire ZB ignition swaps on to the lump of one's choosing, too, right?

Only Honda motors. CRF50 & XR50.
Tmas

ksteder · 02-19-2009, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by tmas

You need a lightning coil to run the lights and the Honda coil will never let you down. You can also keep the harness connections original.
If you build the original ZB Honda motor up the bike will hold its value. The serial numbers will match. The ZB is very rare.
If you decide to put a Chinese motor in your ZB.... KEEP the stock motor and carb (do not sell it).
They are some real nice and not that expensive kits from Trail Bikes that work on the ZB motor (12 volt, CDI motor. same kits as crf and xr) that will give you excellent reliability. 88cc, 108cc and if you want to case bore it 117cc. You have to decide on a clutch, either manual or automatic and that is more money. You can also upgrade to a Honda 4 speed transmission for not that much cash.
tmas

How much or where can i get a 4 spd upgrade? and whats a goodd bore up kit? thanks

firepower354 · 02-20-2009, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by tmas

Only Honda motors. CRF50 & XR50.
Tmas

Hmmm. Other than the e-start versions, arent they all the same under the left side cover? Stator plates swap, no?

tmas · 02-20-2009, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ksteder

How much or where can i get a 4 spd upgrade? and whats a goodd bore up kit? thanks

Motoshop Z can get you the Honda Monkey 12 volt 4 speed AB27 trans and kickstarter shaft but you will have to split the cases to install it. If you want a good BBK go with the TB 108 stroker kit or if you split the cases for the four speed install get the cases bored and go to a TB117 cc but you will have to run an oil cooler. Depends on your budget.
tmas

http://www.planetminis.com/f14/z50-4...ml#post1064068

tmas · 02-20-2009, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by firepower354

Hmmm. Other than the e-start versions, arent they all the same under the left side cover? Stator plates swap, no?

I don't think so but I am not 100% sure. Here is a pic of the plate and stator assembly from a ZB motor.The light green wire goes to the neutral swich in the case.
tmas

fatcaaat · 02-20-2009, 09:53 AM

THe lighting coil from your ZB will mount directly on a Lifan 150 or any of those knockoff motors for sure. Also, some of the Lifan 150s come with the smaller, daytona style outer rotor that WILL run lights. Some do not, some do. Look for the yellow wire coming out. It is a low 25W system but would work fine if you went to the battery first and ran the lights from the battery.

02-18-2009, 09:49 PM	#1 (permalink)
ksteder PM Newbie Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Chicago IL Posts: 33	new zb 50 engine hey guys, im restoring a zb 50 and looking for new good reliable engine. ive browsed through ebay and found several brands clamming to be the best, zongsten, jialing and so on. Im looking for a air or oil cooled 125 4spd mannual. thanks

02-19-2009, 12:54 AM	#2 (permalink)
speeddemon619 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Northeast Ohio Posts: 593	Re: new zb 50 engine Any particular reason for stickin at 125? just curious because you can get some bigger motors for a little bit more money but proboly be happier in the long run

02-19-2009, 02:09 AM	#3 (permalink)
s_10onbagz 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Connecticut. Posts: 1,550	Re: new zb 50 engine lifan 150.

02-19-2009, 05:21 AM	#4 (permalink)
tmas ZB50 Jedi Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 4,108	Re: new zb 50 engine Do up the ZB motor. tmas

02-19-2009, 02:26 PM	#7 (permalink)
firepower354 Advertiser Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Flint MI Posts: 11,002 My Mood:	Re: new zb 50 engine Put me down as a Lifan 150 supporter. You'd spend thousands to have a Honda with comparable all-around performance. __________________ If it has my name on it I did it;) FirepowerMinis.com Custom FPM parts and engines. Parts and service for all makes. Honda Trail Bikes parts and accessories. Pitster/Piranha/Thumpstar bikes, parts, engines and accessories.

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mikev 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Livermore, CA Posts: 614	Re: new zb 50 engine Are the TB kits chinese parts?

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mikev 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Livermore, CA Posts: 614	Re: new zb 50 engine Got it.

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firepower354 Advertiser Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Flint MI Posts: 11,002 My Mood:	Re: new zb 50 engine Entire ZB ignition swaps on to the lump of one's choosing, too, right? __________________ If it has my name on it I did it;) FirepowerMinis.com Custom FPM parts and engines. Parts and service for all makes. Honda Trail Bikes parts and accessories. Pitster/Piranha/Thumpstar bikes, parts, engines and accessories.

02-20-2009, 09:53 AM	#20 (permalink)
fatcaaat 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 3,780	Re: new zb 50 engine THe lighting coil from your ZB will mount directly on a Lifan 150 or any of those knockoff motors for sure. Also, some of the Lifan 150s come with the smaller, daytona style outer rotor that WILL run lights. Some do not, some do. Look for the yellow wire coming out. It is a low 25W system but would work fine if you went to the battery first and ran the lights from the battery.

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