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tmas

i purchased this rear cowl from BMS and it is made to fit the stock ZB seat. I put it on one of my ZB's for a test fit and this is how it looked. So if you decide to buy one be prepared to add foam to the stock seat to make it fit like nice.
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Z

From the looks of those pictures, I wouldn't be running one of those on my bike. Even if it did fit right, the finish and weave of the carbon fiber does not look good. Did you make the bracket or did it come with those crappy looking welds?

I love the look of cowls in pictures, but when it comes to ride the bike, the cowls need to be on the shelf.

The Jetstream cowls fit correctly on a Monkey R seat, but still aren't practical.

That stinks for you.

tmas

Some more mount pics.
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Z.... the bracket came with it.
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If anyone wants underneath the cowl pics let me know.
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s_10onbagz

It looks like the twill is pretty messed up by the area he added so it would fit a zb. Is the rest of the twill looking alright? Could you move the cowl forward a little bit so it fits a little better?

tmas

s10_onbagz..... If you look at the pics the mounting bracket is up against the back of the seat and is not easy to bend. I don't think it will make that much of a difference.
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50r

looks nasty,especially with that bolt sticking out the top of the cowl.
i guess they only do look good in pics,up close in person looks like a butcher job.now i know why you were cautious about a zb fiberglass tank

reynolds_brad

Hey Tmas, do you have access to a scale that can weigh that tail piece. Just curious if it actually weighs less then the jetstream one as it looks like there was a ton of resin and clear used. I'm making a guess that it actually weighs more then the original that it was copied off of.

As for the fit it doesn't seem to fit the stock ZB seat all that well. I think to get that to work you would need to add some material to your seat and recover. That and paint the cowl as the weave layup is pretty bad in the bridged area. I guess you could add some sort of foam pad over that area to cover it up.

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NCNSR

Has anyone been hearing what i have been saying for the past six months.........Caveat Emptor .. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caveat_emptor Just wait the "Orlando Posse" will show up and say the pictures are lying, I am just a dick and Shaun Bassett is the "KING OF CARBON FIBER FABRICATION" Go over to the NSR forum and take a look at REPSOLNSR'S front fender it is crap.........A real abortion....


"As for the fit it doesn't seem to fit the stock ZB seat all that well."

And Brad you missed your calling,You should have been a Diplomat.

tmas

Hey Brad... long time no hear. I will try and get you a weight measurement.
The thing I don't like is the one mounting position by the back of the seat. I am worried it will take a 70 mph flight off the back of the bike or crack at the top mount.
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RySem

Thanks tmas...I was going to order one of those, but the fit just isn't good enough for me. I agree with everyone else, that one spot where the twill is messed up on the front would drive me nuts. I will move forward with my plan of making my own. I have access to a ABS plastic 3D printer, so all I will need to do is make a good CAD model.

NCNSR

I tried to contact BMS Corporate Headquaters in Orlando to clear this up and was informed by a Spokesperson via sattelite phone that a recent hurricane in florida had damaged there Headquaters........(As you can see the damage to there main production facility was extensive)

z50 chopper

tmas that cowl looks horrid if you can try and get your money back if it is even worth the hassle. Hmmm didn't brad do some carbon fibre molding awhile ago?

NCNSR

Horrid? That is an understatement.......Money back from BMS? Good Luck...From the looks of that "Thing" I am sure it went into R&D


That SB is a crafty guy.....http://fibretalk.fibreglast.com/foru...ad.php?t=18445 (I didnt know he built Ducati's) Race bikes no less.......Snicker.

reynolds_brad

yes i did make a carbon tail cowl a year or two back for my ZB. I also made a Fiber glass mounting bracket so there is no bolt sticking through the top like the jetstream design. Mine weighs half the original jet stream cowl i copied it from and has no mounts showing. I also didn't make it with the mind set of reselling it, just for my own consumption thus i took my sweet time making the mold and the piece it self and used as little resin as possible in the production and zero clear. I know i know there should be a UV clear on carbon but i havent done it yet as the finish didnt really need it.

Here is the write up on how the process goes. http://honda50.com/?p=191

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tmas

Brad Reynolds........ I took the cowl to my buddies body shop to weight it on the paint scales. He couldn't believe the fish eyes and dust left in the clear coat. He said if you want to get those blemishes out it will have to be recleared and buffed. He asked me if the guy clear coated it in his garage.
He was not impressed with the quality of it at all.
It weighs 225 grams = 8 oz = .49 of a pound. (metric converted for shapeshifter).
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reynolds_brad

That is down right hilarious, and somewhat what i expected. Its actually more heavy then the stock jetstream fiberglass gel coated tail section. If BMS used the proper method it should have ended up around 100g.

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tmas

I have a carbon fiber front fender I got from MotoshopZ.$150... Real nice fender, I love the quality. When you put it beside the BMS cowl you can see the poor quality CF job. Lots of Blemishes all over.
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gstegman

tmas,
Thanks for the heads up on this stuff. I too am in the "need a rear cowl for a ZB" crowd and I can now scratch this one off the list...