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66Cooper · 01-30-2009, 11:09 AM

Hello,
Trying to get my Z50R road bike project off and running but need a little help. I have a 12v XR motor and am basing my wiring setup off the ZB. My one problem is that I need a picture of what I ZB stator looks like. My XR has two wires (blue/yellow, black/red) stock and after I wrap the stator, will have another (white I think). Now, where does that 4th wire come from? It is either white or yellow and goes to the regulator. Please let me know if you can help
Thanks!
Anyone have a ZB stator kicking around

Z · 01-30-2009, 11:15 AM

ZB50 stators are obsolete.

Hint: They share the same stator as the 1991-1994 CT70. Last time I checked with American Honda, the quantity of those was very, very low so they may be obsolete by now as well.

66Cooper · 01-30-2009, 11:17 AM

I figured that. Figured I throw that in last minute

Really looking to get a picture or some knowledge on what I need to do to get mine rockin.

gstegman · 01-30-2009, 12:10 PM

The previously mentioned CT stator...

66Cooper · 01-30-2009, 12:19 PM

God bless the internet. THANKS!!!

So it looks like its just a matter of soldering on another wire. Cool.

I am sitting at work right now with a wiring harness from a PA50, 8 different diagrams printed and the one I redrew on my big screen. People think I'm nuts over here!

gstegman · 01-30-2009, 12:33 PM

You are most welcome. Z helped me and when I got mine Honda of course said it was the last one.

66Cooper · 01-30-2009, 12:48 PM

Z is pretty awesome!

Ok, does this look right? The little posts that you solder to are just a guess what the look like.

Z · 01-30-2009, 12:55 PM

The 12V Honda Monkey units are still available and will work as well but have a couple of extra wires. So all is not lost if people don't want to make their own or can't find the ZB/CT units.

66Cooper · 01-30-2009, 12:57 PM

Cool, I think I'm going to give it a go and wire up my own. Nothing like DIY!
Still, want to get it right the first time.
Any idea what one would cost new?

Z · 01-30-2009, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 66Cooper

Cool, I think I'm going to give it a go and wire up my own. Nothing like DIY!
Still, want to get it right the first time.
Any idea what one would cost new?

I'll have to look it up but they weren't cheap and have to be sourced out of Japan.

66Cooper · 01-30-2009, 01:15 PM

Yell forget that. More reason to build my own. Thnx.
Any idea if what i have would be right?

s_10onbagz · 02-03-2009, 04:36 AM

just buy an aftermarket one. Baja Designs makes a nice one. Normally a stator has either 1 yellow or 2 white wires added to the stator when it is wound for lights.

66Cooper · 02-04-2009, 01:34 PM

Can anyone tell me if the wire diagram I made for wrapping a stator above is right? If not, would like to correct for myself and for others as reference.

gstegman · 02-04-2009, 01:51 PM

I don't think so assuming you are showing the PU coil at 12:00? The image will not open for me for some reason but it does not seem to match the picture I posted of the ct70 coil.

66Cooper · 02-05-2009, 09:12 PM

I based it off your pictures. Maybe I got it wrong or am not seeing it right.
Yes the pickup (BLACK) coil is on top. The red ones are the ones I would be wrap. What seems wrong to you?

gstegman · 02-06-2009, 12:16 AM

Can you please send me the image (gstegman2002 at yahoo dot com). I can't open the thumbnail. If the green wire is connected that close to the yellow, that does not match. I can't see if you are showing it going underneath or a connection. I only see y,w, and b/r connected on my part. The blue wire on mine runs to the little black unit opposite the pickup.

Perhaps they changed the colors over the years but we should be able to get the connections correct!

gstegman · 02-06-2009, 12:30 AM

Maybe a better lens will help...(BTW, very cool of you to take the time to do this. The blue wire under the yellow is not connected to the stator. It runs to the little black box opposite the pu coil.

Branyers · 02-06-2009, 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gstegman

Maybe a better lens will help...(BTW, very cool of you to take the time to do this. The blue wire under the yellow is not connected to the stator. It runs to the little black box opposite the pu coil.

Superb photos.

gstegman · 02-06-2009, 01:17 AM

Thanks, I think I messed him up with the first attempt.

Branyers · 02-06-2009, 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gstegman

Thanks, I think I messed him up with the first attempt.

Nope you're doing all you can and that's more than most. I love little details like this. The seemingly crazy question that no one can answer, and then someone steps forward. You're a credit to the hobby. We need more answers like this.

01-30-2009, 11:09 AM	#1 (permalink)
66Cooper 1st Gear Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Dirtey Jersey Posts: 117	ZB Stator Question/Pix Hello, Trying to get my Z50R road bike project off and running but need a little help. I have a 12v XR motor and am basing my wiring setup off the ZB. My one problem is that I need a picture of what I ZB stator looks like. My XR has two wires (blue/yellow, black/red) stock and after I wrap the stator, will have another (white I think). Now, where does that 4th wire come from? It is either white or yellow and goes to the regulator. Please let me know if you can help Thanks! Anyone have a ZB stator kicking around

01-30-2009, 11:15 AM	#2 (permalink)
Z 5th Gear Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: KANSAS Posts: 8,540	Re: ZB Stator Question/Pix ZB50 stators are obsolete. Hint: They share the same stator as the 1991-1994 CT70. Last time I checked with American Honda, the quantity of those was very, very low so they may be obsolete by now as well.

01-30-2009, 11:17 AM	#3 (permalink)
66Cooper 1st Gear Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Dirtey Jersey Posts: 117	Re: ZB Stator Question/Pix I figured that. Figured I throw that in last minute Really looking to get a picture or some knowledge on what I need to do to get mine rockin.

01-30-2009, 12:10 PM	#4 (permalink)
gstegman "The Steg" Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Castro Valley, CA Posts: 983	Re: ZB Stator Question/Pix The previously mentioned CT stator... Attached Thumbnails

01-30-2009, 12:19 PM	#5 (permalink)
66Cooper 1st Gear Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Dirtey Jersey Posts: 117	Re: ZB Stator Question/Pix God bless the internet. THANKS!!! So it looks like its just a matter of soldering on another wire. Cool. I am sitting at work right now with a wiring harness from a PA50, 8 different diagrams printed and the one I redrew on my big screen. People think I'm nuts over here!

01-30-2009, 12:33 PM	#6 (permalink)
gstegman "The Steg" Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Castro Valley, CA Posts: 983	Re: ZB Stator Question/Pix You are most welcome. Z helped me and when I got mine Honda of course said it was the last one.

01-30-2009, 12:48 PM	#7 (permalink)
66Cooper 1st Gear Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Dirtey Jersey Posts: 117	Re: ZB Stator Question/Pix Z is pretty awesome! Ok, does this look right? The little posts that you solder to are just a guess what the look like. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by 66Cooper; 01-30-2009 at 12:51 PM.

01-30-2009, 12:55 PM	#8 (permalink)
Z 5th Gear Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: KANSAS Posts: 8,540	Re: ZB Stator Question/Pix The 12V Honda Monkey units are still available and will work as well but have a couple of extra wires. So all is not lost if people don't want to make their own or can't find the ZB/CT units.

01-30-2009, 12:57 PM	#9 (permalink)
66Cooper 1st Gear Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Dirtey Jersey Posts: 117	Re: ZB Stator Question/Pix Cool, I think I'm going to give it a go and wire up my own. Nothing like DIY! Still, want to get it right the first time. Any idea what one would cost new?

01-30-2009, 01:15 PM	#11 (permalink)
66Cooper 1st Gear Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Dirtey Jersey Posts: 117	Re: ZB Stator Question/Pix Yell forget that. More reason to build my own. Thnx. Any idea if what i have would be right?

02-03-2009, 04:36 AM	#12 (permalink)
s_10onbagz 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Connecticut. Posts: 1,550	Re: ZB Stator Question/Pix just buy an aftermarket one. Baja Designs makes a nice one. Normally a stator has either 1 yellow or 2 white wires added to the stator when it is wound for lights.

02-04-2009, 01:34 PM	#13 (permalink)
66Cooper 1st Gear Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Dirtey Jersey Posts: 117	Re: ZB Stator Question/Pix Can anyone tell me if the wire diagram I made for wrapping a stator above is right? If not, would like to correct for myself and for others as reference.

02-04-2009, 01:51 PM	#14 (permalink)
gstegman "The Steg" Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Castro Valley, CA Posts: 983	Re: ZB Stator Question/Pix I don't think so assuming you are showing the PU coil at 12:00? The image will not open for me for some reason but it does not seem to match the picture I posted of the ct70 coil.

02-05-2009, 09:12 PM	#15 (permalink)
66Cooper 1st Gear Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Dirtey Jersey Posts: 117	Re: ZB Stator Question/Pix I based it off your pictures. Maybe I got it wrong or am not seeing it right. Yes the pickup (BLACK) coil is on top. The red ones are the ones I would be wrap. What seems wrong to you?

02-06-2009, 12:16 AM	#16 (permalink)
gstegman "The Steg" Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Castro Valley, CA Posts: 983	Re: ZB Stator Question/Pix Can you please send me the image (gstegman2002 at yahoo dot com). I can't open the thumbnail. If the green wire is connected that close to the yellow, that does not match. I can't see if you are showing it going underneath or a connection. I only see y,w, and b/r connected on my part. The blue wire on mine runs to the little black unit opposite the pickup. Perhaps they changed the colors over the years but we should be able to get the connections correct!

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02-06-2009, 12:30 AM	#17 (permalink)
gstegman "The Steg" Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Castro Valley, CA Posts: 983	Re: ZB Stator Question/Pix Maybe a better lens will help...(BTW, very cool of you to take the time to do this. The blue wire under the yellow is not connected to the stator. It runs to the little black box opposite the pu coil. Attached Thumbnails

02-06-2009, 01:17 AM	#19 (permalink)
gstegman "The Steg" Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Castro Valley, CA Posts: 983	Re: ZB Stator Question/Pix Thanks, I think I messed him up with the first attempt.