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dudidudek93 · 09-10-2009, 10:05 AM

Hi,
Is this aftermarket CDI good for my 1991 Honda NSR 50 ( http://www.mopshop.de/shop/product_i...665e83750d49da )
Thanks for answers

NCNSR · 09-10-2009, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by dudidudek93

Hi,
Is this aftermarket CDI good for my 1991 Honda NSR 50 ( Moped - Honda - NSR 50 LC - Mop-Shop Racing-Team, Scooter-Tuning vom Feinsten, Kompetenz vom 13-fachen deutschen Meister. )
Thanks for answers

If you have a European model NSR it is (Pic below) I dont think it will work on anything else,And Mop-Shop is way expensive. Your best option is a CF Posh CDI SUPER BATTLE SP (GOLD BOX) #220061 OR SUPER BATTLE (SILVER BOX) #220060 If you have a JDM NSR50 or 2004 NSR50R

MC21 · 09-10-2009, 01:51 PM

What is the different between these 2 CDI and are they worth the pennys adding them to a stock 2004 NSR50R?

NCNSR · 09-10-2009, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MC21

What is the different between these 2 CDI and are they worth the pennys adding them to a stock 2004 NSR50R?

The Gold Racing Super Battle SP has more aggressive mapping as opposed to the Silver Racing Super Battle..........I thought enough of it to buy one one (RACING SUPER BATTLE SP) CF POSH Claims an approximate gain of 1/2 a Horsepower (If i remember correctly) You can see it mounted below the Takegawa gauge.......

dudidudek93 · 09-11-2009, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by NCNSR

If you have a European model NSR (Below) it is. I dont think it will work on anything else,And Mop-Shop is way expensive. Your best option is a CF Posh CDI SUPER BATTLE SP (GOLD BOX) #220061 OR SUPER BATTLE (SILVER BOX) #220060 If you have a JDM NSR50 or 2004 NSR50R

Yes, i've got the european one ( AC08 ). So, is it good for me or not, because i haven't understood you very well

. And I can't find POSH cdi's near me

[EDIT]

I found this, but it's in Japan and its for AC12 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CDI-1...Q5fAccessories

NCNSR · 09-11-2009, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by dudidudek93

Yes, i've got the european one ( AC08 ). So, is it good for me or not, because i haven't understood you very well

. And I can't find POSH cdi's near me

[EDIT]

I found this, but it's in Japan and its for AC12 CDI 12V RACING SUPER BATTLE FC POSH VERSION NSR 50:eBay Motors (item 120385074001 end time Sep-26-09 00:55:27 PDT)

Email Mop-Shop they will reply( They speak english ) but it will take a while,That Malossi CDI is for the European NSR so it should work but being i am not an expert i would email them before ordering...................The Posh CDI will do you no good as far as i know..........

reefmuncher · 09-11-2009, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dudidudek93

Yes, i've got the european one ( AC08 ). So, is it good for me or not, because i haven't understood you very well

. And I can't find POSH cdi's near me

[EDIT]

I found this, but it's in Japan and its for AC12 CDI 12V RACING SUPER BATTLE FC POSH VERSION NSR 50:eBay Motors (item 120385074001 end time Sep-26-09 00:55:27 PDT)

Hey dudidude chances are it may work. I only say this as I've had good success running the AC12 CDI on my Euro NSR so can't see why the Posh won't. The connections had to be separated and one wire left unplugged. I've got a Posh on order so can let you know when I get a chance to try.

dudidudek93 · 09-14-2009, 06:15 AM

I've got one more question... Will the new cdi give me more power? Now i have 8rpm on last gear (4), membrane is ok, fuel compsumption is low, anything in carburetor is prepared to good performance.
And where can i find more restictions? In exhaust?
I have read that there is one on cdi, thats why i'm looking for the new one...

NCNSR · 09-14-2009, 09:27 AM

Have you tried over at www.brommerforum.nl or here http://bike.maxrev.de/nsr-50-forum-f154.htm

HymieP · 09-14-2009, 10:13 AM

I've got the silver one brand new never used. Let me know if you need it.
Jamie

Quote:

Originally Posted by NCNSR

If you have a European model NSR it is (17 inch wheels) I dont think it will work on anything else,And Mop-Shop is way expensive. Your best option is a CF Posh CDI SUPER BATTLE SP (GOLD BOX) #220061 OR SUPER BATTLE (SILVER BOX) #220060 If you have a JDM NSR50 or 2004 NSR50R

johnson05 · 09-14-2009, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by MC21

What is the different between these 2 CDI and are they worth the pennys adding them to a stock 2004 NSR50R?

This is not a mod that most people buy for their 04 NSR50R's. Most opt for the inner rotor kit (which includes a CDI) and although the curve is not as aggresive as some of the aftermarket CDI's it allows you to retard or advance the ignition easily to adapt to any mod or fuel or track conditions.

NCNSR · 09-14-2009, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by johnson05

This is not a mod that most people buy for their 04 NSR50R's. Most opt for the inner rotor kit (which includes a CDI) and although the curve is not as aggresive as some of the aftermarket CDI's it allows you to retard or advance the ignition easily to adapt to any mod or fuel or track conditions.

Yeah all true but you need to make the distinction between Race and Street,I cant think of any mod more useless on a street bike.

MC21 · 09-14-2009, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by NCNSR

Yeah all true but you need to make the distinction between Race and Street,I cant think of any mod more useless on a street bike.

what are you calling useless on the street bike?
the CDI or the inner rotor kit?

NCNSR · 09-14-2009, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MC21

what are you calling useless on the street bike?
the CDI or the inner rotor kit?

The Inner Rotor,I had the opportunity to buy an Outer Rotor(You can run lights) and passed.The CDI is a great mod,I have nothing but praise for that...........

reefmuncher · 09-14-2009, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by johnson05

This is not a mod that most people buy for their 04 NSR50R's. Most opt for the inner rotor kit (which includes a CDI) and although the curve is not as aggresive as some of the aftermarket CDI's it allows you to retard or advance the ignition easily to adapt to any mod or fuel or track conditions.

Yeah I've had many conversations with a fellow who used to race the 50's in Europe and he reinforced the importance of the inner rotor kits for high 14,000rpm type power band. I used to race with a mini outer rotor type, which was a little rough and chuggy on the road if you kept the revs low.

I've packed it away and decided to give an inner rotor a shot as we used to race with one quite happily. It's got a lighting coil as well so should give a slight concession to road use!!

NCNSR · 09-14-2009, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by reefmuncher

Yeah I've had many conversations with a fellow who used to race the 50's in Europe and he reinforced the importance of the inner rotor kits for high 14,000rpm type power band. I used to race with a mini outer rotor type, which was a little rough and chuggy on the road if you kept the revs low.

I've packed it away and decided to give an inner rotor a shot as we used to race with one quite happily. It's got a lighting coil as well so should give a slight concession to road use!!

I want to ride a mini with an inner rotor on the street like i want to drive a 2,500 horsepower funnycar on my daily commute.........But i will make some concessions like running this

reefmuncher · 09-14-2009, 04:36 PM

Ha ha that's funny cause we used to swap to a higher compression head and change the timing for weekend "races" when we'd run the higher octane stuff!!

Anyway inner rotor's just step up the whole feel of the bike, make it sound like a real race bike!! My concession is I have additional weights I can add to the inner rotor to bring back a little flexibility and less chuggy at lower engine speeds!

I figure no sense going half way, if I've got the dry clutch, gearbox, 9 port aluminium race block and everything else, got to do it right

NCNSR · 09-15-2009, 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by NCNSR

The Inner Rotor,I had the opportunity to buy an Outer Rotor(You can run lights) and passed.The CDI is a great mod,I have nothing but praise for that...........

Alot of the NSR50 Racing blogs speak well of this one Google Translate

reefmuncher · 10-02-2009, 11:24 AM

I've recently got hold of a CDI for the 75cc which has had the restriction removed. So I inspected and see they scored a section to break the circuit in several spots.

Apparently a local mechanic who went to train at Honda in Japan was shown how it was done. Very simple and straightforward I'll take a photo, though I guess every bike is different. If it was completely dismantled it might be easier to understand the circuit design.

reefmuncher · 10-06-2009, 06:34 AM

Picture added showing scored section on ciruit board

09-10-2009, 10:05 AM	#1 (permalink)
dudidudek93 PM Newbie Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 3	1991 nsr 50 cdi Hi, Is this aftermarket CDI good for my 1991 Honda NSR 50 ( http://www.mopshop.de/shop/product_i...665e83750d49da ) Thanks for answers

09-10-2009, 01:51 PM	#3 (permalink)
MC21 PM Newbie Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 16	Re: 1991 nsr 50 cdi What is the different between these 2 CDI and are they worth the pennys adding them to a stock 2004 NSR50R?

09-14-2009, 06:15 AM	#8 (permalink)
dudidudek93 PM Newbie Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 3	Re: 1991 nsr 50 cdi I've got one more question... Will the new cdi give me more power? Now i have 8rpm on last gear (4), membrane is ok, fuel compsumption is low, anything in carburetor is prepared to good performance. And where can i find more restictions? In exhaust? I have read that there is one on cdi, thats why i'm looking for the new one...

09-14-2009, 09:27 AM	#9 (permalink)
NCNSR R.I.P. 11/29/09 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Franklin Square, NY Posts: 955 My Mood:	Re: 1991 nsr 50 cdi Have you tried over at www.brommerforum.nl or here http://bike.maxrev.de/nsr-50-forum-f154.htm Last edited by NCNSR; 09-14-2009 at 09:29 AM.

09-14-2009, 04:36 PM	#17 (permalink)
reefmuncher 1st Gear Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 130	Re: 1991 nsr 50 cdi Ha ha that's funny cause we used to swap to a higher compression head and change the timing for weekend "races" when we'd run the higher octane stuff!! Anyway inner rotor's just step up the whole feel of the bike, make it sound like a real race bike!! My concession is I have additional weights I can add to the inner rotor to bring back a little flexibility and less chuggy at lower engine speeds! I figure no sense going half way, if I've got the dry clutch, gearbox, 9 port aluminium race block and everything else, got to do it right

10-02-2009, 11:24 AM	#19 (permalink)
reefmuncher 1st Gear Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 130	Re: 1991 nsr 50 cdi I've recently got hold of a CDI for the 75cc which has had the restriction removed. So I inspected and see they scored a section to break the circuit in several spots. Apparently a local mechanic who went to train at Honda in Japan was shown how it was done. Very simple and straightforward I'll take a photo, though I guess every bike is different. If it was completely dismantled it might be easier to understand the circuit design.

10-06-2009, 06:34 AM	#20 (permalink)
reefmuncher 1st Gear Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 130	Re: 1991 nsr 50 cdi Picture added showing scored section on ciruit board

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