Planet Minis

**Dirty** · 10-30-2009, 04:17 PM

TGR and STR would like to see what the interest is in creating some 2 stroke classes. Please vote asap so TGR and STR can make a decision..

50cc Open

65cc Open

85cc Open

Matified · 10-30-2009, 06:14 PM

65 class bikes, 7-11 age group, my son Rayce would like to come and run as well, he runs the nma , gnc ,approved fourstroke , fisrt legal in the 65cc class.

507 brett · 10-30-2009, 06:17 PM

pitbikes are suppose to be air cooled 4 strokes..
4strokes only

507 brett · 10-30-2009, 06:18 PM

however, my buddy has a sweeet suzuki ds80..
it would be pretty funny to see a bunch of dudes running those and like pw80s and the old kdx 80s..

Staggs Racing · 10-30-2009, 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 507 brett

pitbikes are suppose to be air cooled 4 strokes..
4strokes only

yep

SUZUKIRM12594 · 10-30-2009, 06:36 PM

Geeze wuts up with all the 2 stroke haters. I don't see why kids with 65s should be segregated from a day of fun. No one is getting harmed by adding a kids 2 stroke class to the race. I say go for it.

Pros.

More families will show up
More people will have a good time
More money will be made
Keeps the the smokers alive
Better for the sport altogether

65s are minis too.....

Staggs Racing · 10-30-2009, 07:07 PM

because it is a pitbike race and IMO in the past kids could take part but they rode pitbikes.

klxrider245 · 10-30-2009, 07:08 PM

I don't want the kids complaining about the track.

SUZUKIRM12594 · 10-30-2009, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Staggs Racing

because it is a pitbike race and IMO in the past kids could take part but they rode pitbikes.

Not trying to stir up an argument, but whats a Factory BBR bike? Most certainly not a "pit bike". BBRs and LXRs are just as much motocross bikes as 65s are IMO. If we can add one more class to this event, why not? The more the merrier. Just my point of view.

Mxfreak_24 · 10-30-2009, 07:50 PM

What about a class for like pw 80's? Lol

**Dirty** · 10-30-2009, 07:53 PM

Keep the opinions rolling. And vote so we can see a real number of people that are for it or against it. Thanks

Staggs Racing · 10-31-2009, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SUZUKIRM12594

Not trying to stir up an argument, but whats a Factory BBR bike? Most certainly not a "pit bike". BBRs and LXRs are just as much motocross bikes as 65s are IMO. If we can add one more class to this event, why not? The more the merrier. Just my point of view.

no argument just opinions being stated. Built LXR or BBR no matter how you slice it is still a pitbike, not to mention there open cradle frames which is what a pitbike is not kx65 or kx85. All the events in the past that were pitbikes had a large showing of kids having fun but were on real pitbikes. Sorry but IMO this is a pitbike event and that is why dirty has the other series going on cause it has all motocross classes. Might as well bring my rmz250 down and race this event also then.

chasetheface123 · 10-31-2009, 09:38 AM

As much as i think its good to include everyone, i have to say keep them seperated.

monaghan · 10-31-2009, 10:27 AM

adults on 2 strokes would be a class. i wouldnt mind watching. but its going to fill the stadium with smoke!

Luckystar64 · 10-31-2009, 10:43 AM

I have a KX65 and a small wheeled KX100 myself. I would absolutely LOVE to see a stroker class at the SX! In addition, I'd like to see "Adult Mini" classes consisting of 100cc two stroke, and 150cc four stroke MX bikes at the big bike races.

As far as the two stroke MXers being competitive with the built four strokes on pit bike tracks? It'll be tough with an adult on it. I've raced my 65 in an experimental fashion at our local pit bike races, and here's what I found.... Unless the track has longer straightaways where the strokers' top end can make up for the lack of low end that it has out of turns-- it's no advantage, more of a disadvantage if anything. On longer, faster tracks with bermed turns-- it's alot better. If everyone is on the strokers-- it would be a great thing as long as the kids aren't allowed to race their 65's. Make it 16+.

If this were to happen, we'd start to see some development with the 65/85 two strokes as pit bikes. The benefit would be the low cost bikes that would be available. They wouldn't make the 4 strokes a thing of the past, they would just add an option for guys that may have a 60/65/85/100 collecting dust in their garage. I think it's about time. Get 'er done Gary!!

96Justin · 10-31-2009, 05:30 PM

an lxr with full linkage tuned race bike is FAR from a pitbike if you ask me

a true pitbike in my opinion is stock mini racing, not a hopped up 20+ horse power professional race bike with slightly smaller wheels and frame

but at the same time a 50cc 2 stroke is going to mop the floor with a 50cc 4 stroke

**Dirty** · 10-31-2009, 06:30 PM

All good opinions. Thanks guy's keep em rolling!! And don't forget to hit the poll.

SUZUKIRM12594 · 10-31-2009, 06:39 PM

Refer to MBR, their 65 class had a great turn out in that summer series. 65s are by no means considered a pit bike but since they're still minis, and the track would suite them well, why waste a stacked class just cus their not mini 4 strokes. The 65 class in the MBR series was a lot of fun to watch how competative those kids got. I didnt feel they harmed the series in any way.

nickypoo · 10-31-2009, 06:47 PM

i liked the 150r class idea but maybe ad in some 2smoke 85's

RamRockRacing · 10-31-2009, 07:07 PM

2 stroke classes is a good thing to add for kids classes, you get more bikes, parents end up bring those pit bikes with to ride themself and that way you grow the sport, those little ones end up wanting a pit bike and there again you got the sport to grow.

View Poll Results: Would you like to see 2 stroke classes at the MiniSx09
50cc Open	6	7.50%
65cc Open	21	26.25%
85cc Open	8	10.00%
Should be 4 stroke only.	45	56.25%
Voters: 80. You may not vote on this poll

10-30-2009, 04:17 PM	#1 (permalink)
Dirty 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Murrieta Ca Posts: 1,299 My Mood:	MiniSx09 2 Stroke Classes TGR and STR would like to see what the interest is in creating some 2 stroke classes. Please vote asap so TGR and STR can make a decision.. 50cc Open 65cc Open 85cc Open Last edited by Dirty; 11-16-2009 at 08:57 AM.

10-30-2009, 06:14 PM	#2 (permalink)
Matified Pitster Employee Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: USA Posts: 1,887	Re: MiniSx09 2 Stroke Classes 65 class bikes, 7-11 age group, my son Rayce would like to come and run as well, he runs the nma , gnc ,approved fourstroke , fisrt legal in the 65cc class.

10-30-2009, 06:17 PM	#3 (permalink)
507 brett 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: mt. pleasant, NC Posts: 2,406	Re: MiniSx09 2 Stroke Classes pitbikes are suppose to be air cooled 4 strokes.. 4strokes only

10-30-2009, 06:18 PM	#4 (permalink)
507 brett 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: mt. pleasant, NC Posts: 2,406	Re: MiniSx09 2 Stroke Classes however, my buddy has a sweeet suzuki ds80.. it would be pretty funny to see a bunch of dudes running those and like pw80s and the old kdx 80s..

10-30-2009, 06:36 PM	#6 (permalink)
SUZUKIRM12594 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Glendale California Posts: 4,540 My Mood:	Re: MiniSx09 2 Stroke Classes Geeze wuts up with all the 2 stroke haters. I don't see why kids with 65s should be segregated from a day of fun. No one is getting harmed by adding a kids 2 stroke class to the race. I say go for it. Pros. More families will show up More people will have a good time More money will be made Keeps the the smokers alive Better for the sport altogether 65s are minis too..... Last edited by SUZUKIRM12594; 10-30-2009 at 06:39 PM.

10-30-2009, 07:07 PM	#7 (permalink)
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10-30-2009, 07:08 PM	#8 (permalink)
klxrider245 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: RIVERSIDE Posts: 1,017	Re: MiniSx09 2 Stroke Classes I don't want the kids complaining about the track.

10-30-2009, 07:50 PM	#10 (permalink)
Mxfreak_24 PM Newbie Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Fort Worth, Texas Posts: 54	Re: MiniSx09 2 Stroke Classes What about a class for like pw 80's? Lol

10-30-2009, 07:53 PM	#11 (permalink)
Dirty 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Murrieta Ca Posts: 1,299 My Mood:	Re: MiniSx09 2 Stroke Classes Keep the opinions rolling. And vote so we can see a real number of people that are for it or against it. Thanks

10-31-2009, 09:38 AM	#13 (permalink)
chasetheface123 Chuck Norris for president! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Boyne City Michigan Posts: 4,817 My Mood:	Re: MiniSx09 2 Stroke Classes As much as i think its good to include everyone, i have to say keep them seperated.

10-31-2009, 10:27 AM	#14 (permalink)
monaghan 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 967 My Mood:	Re: MiniSx09 2 Stroke Classes adults on 2 strokes would be a class. i wouldnt mind watching. but its going to fill the stadium with smoke!

10-31-2009, 10:43 AM	#15 (permalink)
Luckystar64 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Brunswick, Ohio Posts: 1,494	Re: MiniSx09 2 Stroke Classes I have a KX65 and a small wheeled KX100 myself. I would absolutely LOVE to see a stroker class at the SX! In addition, I'd like to see "Adult Mini" classes consisting of 100cc two stroke, and 150cc four stroke MX bikes at the big bike races. As far as the two stroke MXers being competitive with the built four strokes on pit bike tracks? It'll be tough with an adult on it. I've raced my 65 in an experimental fashion at our local pit bike races, and here's what I found.... Unless the track has longer straightaways where the strokers' top end can make up for the lack of low end that it has out of turns-- it's no advantage, more of a disadvantage if anything. On longer, faster tracks with bermed turns-- it's alot better. If everyone is on the strokers-- it would be a great thing as long as the kids aren't allowed to race their 65's. Make it 16+. If this were to happen, we'd start to see some development with the 65/85 two strokes as pit bikes. The benefit would be the low cost bikes that would be available. They wouldn't make the 4 strokes a thing of the past, they would just add an option for guys that may have a 60/65/85/100 collecting dust in their garage. I think it's about time. Get 'er done Gary!!

10-31-2009, 05:30 PM	#16 (permalink)
96Justin 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Calgary, AB, Canada Posts: 770 My Mood:	Re: MiniSx09 2 Stroke Classes an lxr with full linkage tuned race bike is FAR from a pitbike if you ask me a true pitbike in my opinion is stock mini racing, not a hopped up 20+ horse power professional race bike with slightly smaller wheels and frame but at the same time a 50cc 2 stroke is going to mop the floor with a 50cc 4 stroke

10-31-2009, 06:30 PM	#17 (permalink)
Dirty 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Murrieta Ca Posts: 1,299 My Mood:	Re: MiniSx09 2 Stroke Classes All good opinions. Thanks guy's keep em rolling!! And don't forget to hit the poll.

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10-31-2009, 06:39 PM	#18 (permalink)
SUZUKIRM12594 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Glendale California Posts: 4,540 My Mood:	Re: MiniSx09 2 Stroke Classes Refer to MBR, their 65 class had a great turn out in that summer series. 65s are by no means considered a pit bike but since they're still minis, and the track would suite them well, why waste a stacked class just cus their not mini 4 strokes. The 65 class in the MBR series was a lot of fun to watch how competative those kids got. I didnt feel they harmed the series in any way.

10-31-2009, 06:47 PM	#19 (permalink)
nickypoo 2nd Gear Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Glendora, SoCal Posts: 987	Re: MiniSx09 2 Stroke Classes i liked the 150r class idea but maybe ad in some 2smoke 85's

10-31-2009, 07:07 PM	#20 (permalink)
RamRockRacing 1st Gear Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Nevada, MO Posts: 198 My Mood:	Re: MiniSx09 2 Stroke Classes 2 stroke classes is a good thing to add for kids classes, you get more bikes, parents end up bring those pit bikes with to ride themself and that way you grow the sport, those little ones end up wanting a pit bike and there again you got the sport to grow.