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50ryder420 · 08-10-2008, 11:56 PM

How comparable would a TB117 be to a YX150?

Would the YX walk all over the 117

Reliability of the YX vs 117

I'm a real fan of Honda motors but the price of a YX150 can't be beat

Give me your opinions on either one

Thanks

357 Racing · 08-11-2008, 12:06 AM

What clutch/tranny would be in the tb117?

The tb has alot of top end power. Thats a very fun motor to ride. But what kind of bike is it going into? And what kind of riding do you want to do with it?

The yx has a truck load of torque. On my bros 160 I lean all the way over the bars and I still cant keep the front end down.

But the downfall with the yx is the carb. Kinda small and cheap. Its worth it to get a better carb.

50ryder420 · 08-11-2008, 12:17 AM

Going into this bike

Riding mainly MX and SX tracks with a little trail riding mixed in

The TB 117 has a RJP ported/polished head, custom nikasil TB cylinder, Mikuni 26mm carb kit, Kitaco Ultra complete clutch kit

YX would have a 28mm carb

357 Racing · 08-11-2008, 12:30 AM

Well I know the motor your talkin about. That motor is well built. But a yx150 with a good carb will stomp it IMO.

wayfastwhitey · 08-11-2008, 12:40 AM

what about a lifan 150

357 Racing · 08-11-2008, 12:58 AM

That would be a great choice too. Outer rotor, great clutch with oil filter, still lightweight, etc.

Lifan 150
Built TB117
YX150

wayfastwhitey · 08-11-2008, 01:06 AM

so lifan the greatest of the three

357 Racing · 08-11-2008, 01:14 AM

Not in order just listing the options.

MoTo_XXX · 08-11-2008, 01:36 AM

the yx has alot more after market parts then the lifan 150 so if you want to build it up more later on to say 160 or 190 or wateva its a good engine for you but the lifan 150 out of the box is a bettter engine then the yx,but then again you cannot beat the honda engine in strength and reliability if i was building a tuff race bike id probly put the lifan 150 first then a carby,hi comp piston and cam in the lifan and it would "HOON" then the TB117 then the yx

BlackBeard · 08-11-2008, 02:27 AM

since you already have the clutch go up to a 124se, sell off your current engine kit to fund partially and it will walk all over a yx150 with honda reliability to boot.

roosterr1 · 08-11-2008, 03:25 AM

I have a reeg 70 with the yx 150 and a friend of mine has the same setup on a 70 but he has the tb117 with the tawki tranny. And I would say that I was more impressed with the tb117. It blew me away. I have sence then installed the plus r head and would like to ride them back to back again

50ryder420 · 08-11-2008, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zbbt

since you already have the clutch go up to a 124se, sell off your current engine kit to fund partially and it will walk all over a yx150 with honda reliability to boot.

I dont have the clutch

basicly i was thinking of buying a used TB117 or getting a new YX150/160

The 117 is around 750 and i know i can get a 150 for 500

I am just trying to justify the extra 250 bucks cause out the moment i'm strapped for cash

firepower354 · 08-11-2008, 09:31 AM

I'd get the 150, make sure the clutch nut is tight, swap to a real carb, and ride. Or get a Lifan 150 if you don't plan future mods.

flyn62 · 08-11-2008, 09:33 AM

not sure if the stock form yx will walk all over it. maybe put a v2 on the yx and say goodbye to the 117

shelbs · 08-11-2008, 09:38 AM

haha! I love how all engine discussions compare apples to oranges in terms of motors and the riders skill level/ability is NEVER taken into account.

50ryder420 · 08-11-2008, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shelbs

haha! I love how all engine discussions compare apples to oranges in terms of motors and the riders skill level/ability is NEVER taken into account.

very true and i'm no pro thats for sure

i have 3 friends with YX150s that are around my riding level so i just don't want to get wipped by them

firepower354 · 08-11-2008, 09:46 AM

"Riding mainly MX and SX tracks with a little trail riding mixed in"

A Lifan 150 will waste a TB117, all day, every day. Even if the used race motor he's talking about isn't a ragged hag. A YX with some compression and a real carb will do the same. The worse the rider, the bigger the difference.

Hell. Even I get around good on the tractors

ChainReactionR1 · 08-11-2008, 09:47 AM

hold that TB117 pinned while they are repairing clutch baskets, lol

edited: "their" for "they are" , dont want shelbs to have a nervous breakdown this AM, lol

firepower354 · 08-11-2008, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChainReactionR1

hold that TB117 pinned while their repairing clutch baskets, lol

As long as you're down there below the belt...

Keep the nut tight, and they seen to last just fine under less than 16-17HP

Not that a 117 will ever go there.

Interesting how much better people like TB's 3rd world parts than YX and Lifan's...

ChainReactionR1 · 08-11-2008, 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by firepower354

As long as you're down there below the belt...

Keep the nut tight, and they seen to last just fine under less than 16-17HP

LMAO!!! I agree completely

08-10-2008, 11:56 PM	#1 (permalink)
50ryder420 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Thousand Oaks, CA Posts: 330 My Mood:	TB117 vs YX150 How comparable would a TB117 be to a YX150? Would the YX walk all over the 117 Reliability of the YX vs 117 I'm a real fan of Honda motors but the price of a YX150 can't be beat Give me your opinions on either one Thanks

08-11-2008, 12:06 AM	#2 (permalink)
357 Racing 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 4,079	Re: TB117 vs YX150 What clutch/tranny would be in the tb117? The tb has alot of top end power. Thats a very fun motor to ride. But what kind of bike is it going into? And what kind of riding do you want to do with it? The yx has a truck load of torque. On my bros 160 I lean all the way over the bars and I still cant keep the front end down. But the downfall with the yx is the carb. Kinda small and cheap. Its worth it to get a better carb.

08-11-2008, 12:17 AM	#3 (permalink)
50ryder420 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Thousand Oaks, CA Posts: 330 My Mood:	Re: TB117 vs YX150 Going into this bike Riding mainly MX and SX tracks with a little trail riding mixed in The TB 117 has a RJP ported/polished head, custom nikasil TB cylinder, Mikuni 26mm carb kit, Kitaco Ultra complete clutch kit YX would have a 28mm carb

08-11-2008, 12:30 AM	#4 (permalink)
357 Racing 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 4,079	Re: TB117 vs YX150 Well I know the motor your talkin about. That motor is well built. But a yx150 with a good carb will stomp it IMO.

08-11-2008, 12:40 AM	#5 (permalink)
wayfastwhitey 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Long Beach Posts: 2,918 My Mood:	Re: TB117 vs YX150 what about a lifan 150

08-11-2008, 12:58 AM	#6 (permalink)
357 Racing 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 4,079	Re: TB117 vs YX150 That would be a great choice too. Outer rotor, great clutch with oil filter, still lightweight, etc. Lifan 150 Built TB117 YX150

08-11-2008, 01:06 AM	#7 (permalink)
wayfastwhitey 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Long Beach Posts: 2,918 My Mood:	Re: TB117 vs YX150 so lifan the greatest of the three

08-11-2008, 01:14 AM	#8 (permalink)
357 Racing 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 4,079	Re: TB117 vs YX150 Not in order just listing the options.

08-11-2008, 01:36 AM	#9 (permalink)
MoTo_XXX 1st Gear Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 214	Re: TB117 vs YX150 the yx has alot more after market parts then the lifan 150 so if you want to build it up more later on to say 160 or 190 or wateva its a good engine for you but the lifan 150 out of the box is a bettter engine then the yx,but then again you cannot beat the honda engine in strength and reliability if i was building a tuff race bike id probly put the lifan 150 first then a carby,hi comp piston and cam in the lifan and it would "HOON" then the TB117 then the yx

08-11-2008, 02:27 AM	#10 (permalink)
BlackBeard "ZBBT" Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: 50 riders Posts: 1,836 My Mood:	Re: TB117 vs YX150 since you already have the clutch go up to a 124se, sell off your current engine kit to fund partially and it will walk all over a yx150 with honda reliability to boot.

08-11-2008, 03:25 AM	#11 (permalink)
roosterr1 1st Gear Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ogden Utah Posts: 102	Re: TB117 vs YX150 I have a reeg 70 with the yx 150 and a friend of mine has the same setup on a 70 but he has the tb117 with the tawki tranny. And I would say that I was more impressed with the tb117. It blew me away. I have sence then installed the plus r head and would like to ride them back to back again

08-11-2008, 09:31 AM	#13 (permalink)
firepower354 Advertiser Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Flint MI Posts: 11,002 My Mood:	Re: TB117 vs YX150 I'd get the 150, make sure the clutch nut is tight, swap to a real carb, and ride. Or get a Lifan 150 if you don't plan future mods. __________________ If it has my name on it I did it;) FirepowerMinis.com Custom FPM parts and engines. Parts and service for all makes. Honda Trail Bikes parts and accessories. Pitster/Piranha/Thumpstar bikes, parts, engines and accessories.

08-11-2008, 09:33 AM	#14 (permalink)
flyn62 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: maple valley Posts: 3,069	Re: TB117 vs YX150 not sure if the stock form yx will walk all over it. maybe put a v2 on the yx and say goodbye to the 117

08-11-2008, 09:38 AM	#15 (permalink)
shelbs 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Riverside, CA Posts: 1,112	Re: TB117 vs YX150 haha! I love how all engine discussions compare apples to oranges in terms of motors and the riders skill level/ability is NEVER taken into account.

08-11-2008, 09:46 AM	#17 (permalink)
firepower354 Advertiser Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Flint MI Posts: 11,002 My Mood:	Re: TB117 vs YX150 "Riding mainly MX and SX tracks with a little trail riding mixed in" A Lifan 150 will waste a TB117, all day, every day. Even if the used race motor he's talking about isn't a ragged hag. A YX with some compression and a real carb will do the same. The worse the rider, the bigger the difference. Hell. Even I get around good on the tractors __________________ If it has my name on it I did it;) FirepowerMinis.com Custom FPM parts and engines. Parts and service for all makes. Honda Trail Bikes parts and accessories. Pitster/Piranha/Thumpstar bikes, parts, engines and accessories.

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08-11-2008, 09:47 AM	#18 (permalink)
ChainReactionR1 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 988	Re: TB117 vs YX150 hold that TB117 pinned while they are repairing clutch baskets, lol edited: "their" for "they are" , dont want shelbs to have a nervous breakdown this AM, lol Last edited by ChainReactionR1; 08-11-2008 at 09:49 AM.