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eric0177 · 08-26-2009, 04:52 PM

I have a takegawa motor 124 motor with a kitaco cylinder. It had a kitaco se head on it and I sold it thinking I was going to buy one of the new takegawa r heads. I dont have the money to buy one of the high dollar heads right now and I was wondering does anyone know of a cheaper head that would work on that set up? Like a trail bikes head ect. I am no expert on these motors so I need some help please thanks!!!

LongMooie · 08-26-2009, 05:03 PM

Im confused! you say its a takegawa motor but you have a kitaco124 head and sleave wouldnt this be a kitaco motor, unless theres a takegawa clutch on it but id hardly call that a take motor

the head is going to have to match your 54mm piston
im not even sure if the kitaco piston would work with the takegawa heads???
do a search in the classifieds to see if there are any
takegawa super heads
or kitaco se heads

firepower354 · 08-26-2009, 08:54 PM

Yup, or the new TB Honda head with 30mm intake. Pistons made for the combo. Still a few weeks from the catalog, but it's gonna be sweet.

Dogboy · 08-30-2009, 04:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by firepower354

Yup, or the new TB Honda head with 30mm intake. Pistons made for the combo. Still a few weeks from the catalog, but it's gonna be sweet.

When should the new tb head be available?
Any idea on its price?
Any word on how it stacks up against the Kitaco SE or Taki superhead +R?

firepower354 · 08-30-2009, 09:10 PM

I'll be testing one this week. So far, things sound promising.

twosmoke30 · 08-30-2009, 09:14 PM

wait...so is there gonna be like a v2 for the 50?? and is there gonna be maybe a v3 for the 110??

Dogboy · 09-06-2009, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by firepower354

I'll be testing one this week. So far, things sound promising.

Is this head a crf50 stud pattern compatibile version of the TB Import Race Head (TBW9047)- 30mm intake valve, 23.5mm exhaust valve, 30mm intake port, 25mm exhaust port.

Let us know how it performs.

ar design · 09-07-2009, 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by firepower354

I'll be testing one this week. So far, things sound promising.

Price? I take it this will bolt onto a TB 88cc kit?

bat999 · 09-07-2009, 12:09 PM

I tested mine this past Sunday and it rips.................I'm thinkin that a S30 cam grind for this head will wake it up. Gonna have a TB300 sent to Crower and have them put the Tak S30 specs on it and I'll let ya know how much more. But the thing rips with the TB300 now. Can you say power wheelies.......

50rider340 · 09-07-2009, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by firepower354

I'll be testing one this week. So far, things sound promising.

terry can you please give us a little more info on this. If they make a roller head for a crf i know what my next purchase might be.

bat999 · 09-07-2009, 06:50 PM

It's not a roller, just a BVH for the CRF.....

Dogboy · 09-07-2009, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bat999

I tested mine this past Sunday and it rips.................I'm thinkin that a S30 cam grind for this head will wake it up. Gonna have a TB300 sent to Crower and have them put the Tak S30 specs on it and I'll let ya know how much more. But the thing rips with the TB300 now. Can you say power wheelies.......

What size motor did you fit it to and how does it compare to a SE or +R head?

rc164racer · 09-07-2009, 10:57 PM

Im interested in this new head you talk about.

taz69 · 09-08-2009, 09:27 AM

Guys.. Im friends with Bat999 and saw the head this weekend. Even helped with a little on the install lol.. Look here is the deal it has the same size valves as the V2 head from TB but has the honda stud spacing.. It uses the TB300 cam but comes with a totally different intake... You could use the 26mm boot or a 28mm boot from any takegawa or Kitaco intake and put it on the TB intake.. (No more funny bolt spacing on the Tb intake on the rubber boot side)..It is not a roller set up.. It has regular rocker arms... The piston is 54mm and is different..It has more of a dome and deeper cut outs for the bigger valves than the current (race head piston). Now we are not using that piston as Bat999 has the TB 95cc 54mm piston (for the old race head) in this bike so we did have to modify his piston a little.. The piston the new head comes with is for the TB 51mm crank... hope that helps a little.. With a good cam this head will be as good as my +R roller head I have from takegawa so yes here is a cheap head that I would put aginst the SE head or the +R.. It just lacks a high lift high duration cam a +R head with a S30 cam would out pull tb300 cam. So for now thats the only thing you might wana source.... We roadrace the bikes so we look for MAX HP #s and run the biggest cams we can... I wana know if the piston works on a 63mm cylinder and a 51mm crank. would it work if you sourced a DR-atv 54mm crank and a 69 cylinder.. Cause if so then you could build a 124cc motor that with the right cam would run with any Jap headed 124 for a LOT less..

firepower354 · 09-08-2009, 11:52 AM

Rollers are hype...

I've mocked-up several combos with the new piston/head setup. It's gonna be popular

The old piston will give lower compression in the new head.

63mm jug and stock crank uses the same piston height as a 51mm crank. Shorter rod. The new piston is a touch shorter, to use the thinner head gasket, is all. 69mm jug and 12v DrATV crank will make an econo-124.

I'm not sure that adding 20 degrees more duration is a good thing, even for a road racer. Maybe scale back to the S25?

taz69 · 09-08-2009, 01:36 PM

S25 is a good cam too..

Firepower would be the contact source for all other info.. Hes the man ...

taz69 · 09-11-2009, 09:15 AM

Hmm well I

08-26-2009, 04:52 PM	#1 (permalink)
eric0177 1st Gear Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: charlotte nc Posts: 209	need help with takegawa 124 motor I have a takegawa motor 124 motor with a kitaco cylinder. It had a kitaco se head on it and I sold it thinking I was going to buy one of the new takegawa r heads. I dont have the money to buy one of the high dollar heads right now and I was wondering does anyone know of a cheaper head that would work on that set up? Like a trail bikes head ect. I am no expert on these motors so I need some help please thanks!!!

08-26-2009, 05:03 PM	#2 (permalink)
LongMooie 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: originaly UK! now Central valley, Cali Posts: 1,114 My Mood:	Re: need help with takegawa 124 motor Im confused! you say its a takegawa motor but you have a kitaco124 head and sleave wouldnt this be a kitaco motor, unless theres a takegawa clutch on it but id hardly call that a take motor the head is going to have to match your 54mm piston im not even sure if the kitaco piston would work with the takegawa heads??? do a search in the classifieds to see if there are any takegawa super heads or kitaco se heads Last edited by LongMooie; 08-26-2009 at 05:07 PM.

08-26-2009, 08:54 PM	#3 (permalink)
firepower354 Advertiser Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Flint MI Posts: 11,005 My Mood:	Re: need help with takegawa 124 motor Yup, or the new TB Honda head with 30mm intake. Pistons made for the combo. Still a few weeks from the catalog, but it's gonna be sweet. __________________ If it has my name on it I did it;) FirepowerMinis.com Custom FPM parts and engines. Parts and service for all makes. Honda Trail Bikes parts and accessories. Pitster/Piranha/Thumpstar bikes, parts, engines and accessories.

08-30-2009, 09:10 PM	#5 (permalink)
firepower354 Advertiser Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Flint MI Posts: 11,005 My Mood:	Re: need help with takegawa 124 motor I'll be testing one this week. So far, things sound promising. __________________ If it has my name on it I did it;) FirepowerMinis.com Custom FPM parts and engines. Parts and service for all makes. Honda Trail Bikes parts and accessories. Pitster/Piranha/Thumpstar bikes, parts, engines and accessories.

08-30-2009, 09:14 PM	#6 (permalink)
twosmoke30 2nd Gear Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 892 My Mood:	Re: need help with takegawa 124 motor wait...so is there gonna be like a v2 for the 50?? and is there gonna be maybe a v3 for the 110??

09-07-2009, 12:09 PM	#9 (permalink)
bat999 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 505 My Mood:	Re: need help with takegawa 124 motor I tested mine this past Sunday and it rips.................I'm thinkin that a S30 cam grind for this head will wake it up. Gonna have a TB300 sent to Crower and have them put the Tak S30 specs on it and I'll let ya know how much more. But the thing rips with the TB300 now. Can you say power wheelies.......

09-07-2009, 06:50 PM	#11 (permalink)
bat999 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 505 My Mood:	Re: need help with takegawa 124 motor It's not a roller, just a BVH for the CRF.....

09-07-2009, 10:57 PM	#13 (permalink)
rc164racer 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Brisbane, CA Posts: 917 My Mood:	Re: need help with takegawa 124 motor Im interested in this new head you talk about.

09-08-2009, 09:27 AM	#14 (permalink)
taz69 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 476	Re: need help with takegawa 124 motor Guys.. Im friends with Bat999 and saw the head this weekend. Even helped with a little on the install lol.. Look here is the deal it has the same size valves as the V2 head from TB but has the honda stud spacing.. It uses the TB300 cam but comes with a totally different intake... You could use the 26mm boot or a 28mm boot from any takegawa or Kitaco intake and put it on the TB intake.. (No more funny bolt spacing on the Tb intake on the rubber boot side)..It is not a roller set up.. It has regular rocker arms... The piston is 54mm and is different..It has more of a dome and deeper cut outs for the bigger valves than the current (race head piston). Now we are not using that piston as Bat999 has the TB 95cc 54mm piston (for the old race head) in this bike so we did have to modify his piston a little.. The piston the new head comes with is for the TB 51mm crank... hope that helps a little.. With a good cam this head will be as good as my +R roller head I have from takegawa so yes here is a cheap head that I would put aginst the SE head or the +R.. It just lacks a high lift high duration cam a +R head with a S30 cam would out pull tb300 cam. So for now thats the only thing you might wana source.... We roadrace the bikes so we look for MAX HP #s and run the biggest cams we can... I wana know if the piston works on a 63mm cylinder and a 51mm crank. would it work if you sourced a DR-atv 54mm crank and a 69 cylinder.. Cause if so then you could build a 124cc motor that with the right cam would run with any Jap headed 124 for a LOT less.. Last edited by taz69; 09-08-2009 at 01:43 PM.

09-08-2009, 11:52 AM	#15 (permalink)
firepower354 Advertiser Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Flint MI Posts: 11,005 My Mood:	Re: need help with takegawa 124 motor Rollers are hype... I've mocked-up several combos with the new piston/head setup. It's gonna be popular The old piston will give lower compression in the new head. 63mm jug and stock crank uses the same piston height as a 51mm crank. Shorter rod. The new piston is a touch shorter, to use the thinner head gasket, is all. 69mm jug and 12v DrATV crank will make an econo-124. I'm not sure that adding 20 degrees more duration is a good thing, even for a road racer. Maybe scale back to the S25? __________________ If it has my name on it I did it;) FirepowerMinis.com Custom FPM parts and engines. Parts and service for all makes. Honda Trail Bikes parts and accessories. Pitster/Piranha/Thumpstar bikes, parts, engines and accessories.

09-08-2009, 01:36 PM	#16 (permalink)
taz69 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 476	Re: need help with takegawa 124 motor S25 is a good cam too.. Firepower would be the contact source for all other info.. Hes the man ...

09-11-2009, 09:15 AM	#17 (permalink)
taz69 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 476	Re: need help with takegawa 124 motor Hmm well I

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