Planet Minis

cleared4landing · 10-28-2007, 01:28 PM

am debating on what to put into a rolling chassis.

1. pickup a 88cc rh and build into a stroker or possibly a 117

2. pickup a new 150 gpx, comes with everything needed to mount in and rip around, including oil cooler for $575

-The all new GPX 150cc race engine. Everything is included to install. 53mm stroke
60mm bore
Inner Rotor Kit installed with all electrical wiring
True 26mm Carb
Kicker
Shifter
Clutch & Throttle Cable
sgr oil cooler

Dyno Runs will be posted soon, rated at over 11HP

3. pickup an sgr race built 146

- We Start with a Stock 125 GPX Features:

* 124cc GPX 4 Stroke
* 52.4mm Bore
* 57mm Stroke
* Compression 9.6:1
* Aluminum Cylinder
* SOHC 2 Valve
* 8hp At The Rear Wheel @ 8500 RPM
* High Flow Intake
* High Volume Oil Pump
* 4 Speed Manual Transmission
* 5 Plate Clutch
* Starts In Any Gear
* Standard Kick Start Lever
* Standard Gear Shift Lever
******
****SKID PLATE NOT INCLUDED****

Then we add a 146cc trailbike big bore kit,a Trail bikes 300 cam,uni air filter and SGR rev box, and a SGR inner rotor kit. You can't go wrong with this motor. It is assembled in the usa with parts from 2 well known company's and assembled by Staggs Racing.

someone with some more experience give me your thoughts and ideas

ONE-10 · 10-28-2007, 01:41 PM

#3 is the way to go, ton of power and torque and plenty of companies have parts for them. not to mention gpx is a decent motor.

Staggs Racing · 10-28-2007, 01:49 PM

the 150cc is still new on the market. the gpx 146cc mtor is good and later down the road if you want more power you can purchase our big valve race head and hc piston to make it even more of a beast.

KSKENE247 · 10-28-2007, 02:25 PM

#3 but just get the sgr pro kit...
bvh and eveything... best kit around

HACKMUNCH · 10-28-2007, 03:57 PM

146cc jialing build is a good choice but dont expect it to run for a year. either you break the cases,tear out the tranny or blow up the clutch but it is a race engine and i dont know anyone that has had a race engine last 2 yrs, unless it was on the shelf and never ran.

Staggs Racing · 10-28-2007, 04:03 PM

WELL WE HAVE A FEW 146 MOTORS THAT HAVE NOW RAN 1 YEAR. We have had a few that we had to replace clutches in and 2nd gear but we are talking built race motors. I have seen problems with built hondas engines, and even broken cases from kick back on buit honda engines also. So keep in mind these are built race engines and when you race stuff happens. but the motors that have lasted 1 year is not a joke and have been through hell and back. race or ridden 1-2 times a week or more since they were built.

Staggs Racing · 10-28-2007, 04:04 PM

some people experience issues and some dont. all of our motors are backed for 30days.

Paxracing · 10-28-2007, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Staggs Racing

some people experience issues and some dont. all of our motors are backed for 30days.

all motor you sale ?

Staggs Racing · 10-28-2007, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paxracing

all motor you sale ?

that quote was not refferring to our customers or engines. I was refferring to others who have built there own engines. Not sgr Engines.

washracer_11 · 10-28-2007, 04:35 PM

I had #3 but am now hopefully getting #2 with a +r head.

SUPERMOTARD29 · 10-29-2008, 12:57 PM

i have #3 and no problem so far
(about 25 hours of hard supermoto racing)

CMS92 · 10-29-2008, 01:38 PM

Nothing beats a Honda but if you want a drop in motor at a decent price then go for it.

SHADE · 10-29-2008, 02:03 PM

My SGR 146 motor i have had for about a year and a half maybe 2 years and its runns like a champ gets ridden twice a week sometimes more. great motor lots of power!

SCAR8 · 10-29-2008, 02:11 PM

haha my 146 rips I bought it with my 50. It doesn't shift right every now and then. It's the PRO race motor and is a bitch to start sometimes. Sometimes the kicker lets out a very loud SNAP before it even turns the motor over very much. Hope the case's hold together! No telling how many hours are on it tho. Guy said it had low hours and the rub marks on the case's was minimal .. but I dunno. I'm not going to be surprised when it fly's apart.

I've only had a 117 in a 12" bike so I couldn't compare the two. But I'm sure the 146 would walk all over it. as well as the 150.

But a 117 makes decent power and is more reliable then the other 2 put together.

50rider340 · 10-29-2008, 02:20 PM

I would go with the 117. My buddy has one and let my brother barrow it to race in vegas. Such an awesome motor and very reliable and gobs of torque. I have a yx150 motor, and have ridden a gpx 146 and was not impressed with either of the motors. The yx150 motor you cant just go out in your back yard and ride around at all its all go or nothing. The gpx146 isnt to bad but i still would just go with the 117 its a more useable motor.

HRC · 10-29-2008, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Staggs Racing

some people experience issues and some dont. all of our motors are backed for 30days.

Why only 4 weeks? Why not 1 year like Honda?

I say #1. You get Honda quality/reliability along with TB reliability / and not chinese junk of any kind. Chinese stuff breaks and is cheap.

SCAR8 · 10-29-2008, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HRC

Why only 4 weeks? Why not 1 year like Honda?

I say #1. You get Honda quality/reliability along with TB reliability / and not chinese junk of any kind. Chinese stuff breaks and is cheap.

Although my 146 rips (for now). I agree 100%. When this thing fly's apart I'm never buying another chinese motor/bike in my life. Just not worth it.

moto234 · 10-29-2008, 06:49 PM

the 117 is suppose to be really fast but im sure its not as fast as the other 2 just because it has much less cc's. but its gonna last longer thats for sure so id say get it. it'll be around when the others arent. while youre building the 117 source a 54mm crank and put it in and have a 124

Staggs Racing · 11-02-2008, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HRC

Why only 4 weeks? Why not 1 year like Honda?

I say #1. You get Honda quality/reliability along with TB reliability / and not chinese junk of any kind. Chinese stuff breaks and is cheap.

honda motors are not 1 year, especially if you modify it. there warranty only covers a stock motor.

coletrain01 · 11-02-2008, 03:57 PM

#1 117cc

10-28-2007, 01:28 PM	#1 (permalink)
cleared4landing PM Newbie Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 37	tb117 vs. 150gpx vs. sgr race built 146? am debating on what to put into a rolling chassis. 1. pickup a 88cc rh and build into a stroker or possibly a 117 2. pickup a new 150 gpx, comes with everything needed to mount in and rip around, including oil cooler for $575 -The all new GPX 150cc race engine. Everything is included to install. 53mm stroke 60mm bore Inner Rotor Kit installed with all electrical wiring True 26mm Carb Kicker Shifter Clutch & Throttle Cable sgr oil cooler Dyno Runs will be posted soon, rated at over 11HP 3. pickup an sgr race built 146 - We Start with a Stock 125 GPX Features: * 124cc GPX 4 Stroke * 52.4mm Bore * 57mm Stroke * Compression 9.6:1 * Aluminum Cylinder * SOHC 2 Valve * 8hp At The Rear Wheel @ 8500 RPM * High Flow Intake * High Volume Oil Pump * 4 Speed Manual Transmission * 5 Plate Clutch * Starts In Any Gear * Standard Kick Start Lever * Standard Gear Shift Lever **** SKID PLATE NOT INCLUDED** Then we add a 146cc trailbike big bore kit,a Trail bikes 300 cam,uni air filter and SGR rev box, and a SGR inner rotor kit. You can't go wrong with this motor. It is assembled in the usa with parts from 2 well known company's and assembled by Staggs Racing. someone with some more experience give me your thoughts and ideas

10-28-2007, 01:41 PM	#2 (permalink)
ONE-10 PM Newbie Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: MA Posts: 29	Re: tb117 vs. 150gpx vs. sgr race built 146? #3 is the way to go, ton of power and torque and plenty of companies have parts for them. not to mention gpx is a decent motor.

10-28-2007, 01:49 PM	#3 (permalink)
Staggs Racing Advertiser Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: victorville,ca Posts: 6,753 My Mood:	Re: tb117 vs. 150gpx vs. sgr race built 146? the 150cc is still new on the market. the gpx 146cc mtor is good and later down the road if you want more power you can purchase our big valve race head and hc piston to make it even more of a beast. __________________ Website WWW.STAGGS-RACING.COM Shop OnlineWWW.SGR-USA.COM CONTACT@SGR-USA.COM PHONE #760-964-1203 WWW.MYSPACE.COM/SGRUSA

10-28-2007, 02:25 PM	#4 (permalink)
KSKENE247 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Agoura Posts: 1,845	Re: tb117 vs. 150gpx vs. sgr race built 146? #3 but just get the sgr pro kit... bvh and eveything... best kit around

10-28-2007, 03:57 PM	#5 (permalink)
HACKMUNCH 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: BRUNSWICK OHIO Posts: 5,239	Re: tb117 vs. 150gpx vs. sgr race built 146? 146cc jialing build is a good choice but dont expect it to run for a year. either you break the cases,tear out the tranny or blow up the clutch but it is a race engine and i dont know anyone that has had a race engine last 2 yrs, unless it was on the shelf and never ran.

10-28-2007, 04:03 PM	#6 (permalink)
Staggs Racing Advertiser Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: victorville,ca Posts: 6,753 My Mood:	Re: tb117 vs. 150gpx vs. sgr race built 146? WELL WE HAVE A FEW 146 MOTORS THAT HAVE NOW RAN 1 YEAR. We have had a few that we had to replace clutches in and 2nd gear but we are talking built race motors. I have seen problems with built hondas engines, and even broken cases from kick back on buit honda engines also. So keep in mind these are built race engines and when you race stuff happens. but the motors that have lasted 1 year is not a joke and have been through hell and back. race or ridden 1-2 times a week or more since they were built. __________________ Website WWW.STAGGS-RACING.COM Shop OnlineWWW.SGR-USA.COM CONTACT@SGR-USA.COM PHONE #760-964-1203 WWW.MYSPACE.COM/SGRUSA

10-28-2007, 04:04 PM	#7 (permalink)
Staggs Racing Advertiser Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: victorville,ca Posts: 6,753 My Mood:	Re: tb117 vs. 150gpx vs. sgr race built 146? some people experience issues and some dont. all of our motors are backed for 30days. __________________ Website WWW.STAGGS-RACING.COM Shop OnlineWWW.SGR-USA.COM CONTACT@SGR-USA.COM PHONE #760-964-1203 WWW.MYSPACE.COM/SGRUSA

10-28-2007, 04:35 PM	#10 (permalink)
washracer_11 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: 801 Posts: 1,481	Re: tb117 vs. 150gpx vs. sgr race built 146? I had #3 but am now hopefully getting #2 with a +r head.

10-29-2008, 12:57 PM	#11 (permalink)
SUPERMOTARD29 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: houston tx Posts: 385	Re: tb117 vs. 150gpx vs. sgr race built 146? i have #3 and no problem so far (about 25 hours of hard supermoto racing)

10-29-2008, 01:38 PM	#12 (permalink)
CMS92 2nd Gear Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Dryden,Mi. Posts: 323	Re: tb117 vs. 150gpx vs. sgr race built 146? Nothing beats a Honda but if you want a drop in motor at a decent price then go for it.

10-29-2008, 02:03 PM	#13 (permalink)
SHADE 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: So*Cal Posts: 6,187 My Mood:	Re: tb117 vs. 150gpx vs. sgr race built 146? My SGR 146 motor i have had for about a year and a half maybe 2 years and its runns like a champ gets ridden twice a week sometimes more. great motor lots of power!

10-29-2008, 02:11 PM	#14 (permalink)
SCAR8 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springfield Mo. Posts: 2,119	Re: tb117 vs. 150gpx vs. sgr race built 146? haha my 146 rips I bought it with my 50. It doesn't shift right every now and then. It's the PRO race motor and is a bitch to start sometimes. Sometimes the kicker lets out a very loud SNAP before it even turns the motor over very much. Hope the case's hold together! No telling how many hours are on it tho. Guy said it had low hours and the rub marks on the case's was minimal .. but I dunno. I'm not going to be surprised when it fly's apart. I've only had a 117 in a 12" bike so I couldn't compare the two. But I'm sure the 146 would walk all over it. as well as the 150. But a 117 makes decent power and is more reliable then the other 2 put together.

10-29-2008, 02:20 PM	#15 (permalink)
50rider340 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: CT Posts: 3,083 My Mood:	Re: tb117 vs. 150gpx vs. sgr race built 146? I would go with the 117. My buddy has one and let my brother barrow it to race in vegas. Such an awesome motor and very reliable and gobs of torque. I have a yx150 motor, and have ridden a gpx 146 and was not impressed with either of the motors. The yx150 motor you cant just go out in your back yard and ride around at all its all go or nothing. The gpx146 isnt to bad but i still would just go with the 117 its a more useable motor.

10-29-2008, 06:49 PM	#18 (permalink)
moto234 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: CHICO CA Ukiah CA MENDO 707 Posts: 2,782	Re: tb117 vs. 150gpx vs. sgr race built 146? the 117 is suppose to be really fast but im sure its not as fast as the other 2 just because it has much less cc's. but its gonna last longer thats for sure so id say get it. it'll be around when the others arent. while youre building the 117 source a 54mm crank and put it in and have a 124

11-02-2008, 03:57 PM	#20 (permalink)
coletrain01 3rd Gear Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Rochester, mn Posts: 1,732	Re: tb117 vs. 150gpx vs. sgr race built 146? #1 117cc

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