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    internals of the daytona anima revealed for the first time

    recently purchased one of these anima 150s and just couldn't help to tear into it. here are some pics for you other builders that have been pondering on the engine


    anima primary on bottom yx on top

    stud pattern difference
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    dyno of the 150

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    intake valve job
    full view of intake valves
    not thrilled w/ factory valve cut location
    exhaust valves
    exhaust seating width and location isn't all too too bad
    exhaust seat cuts
    valve springs and retainers, retainers are steel
    cam and rocker arms
    i thought this was neat. daytona knocked 4 holes in cam sprocket 2 holes for the moron proof cam timing and 2 slotted for the engine builders that like to degree their engine
    exhaust port
    super easy to access and work on valve train
    intake port, def room for improvement

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    So ...... overall opinion of this new engine ?? Rating out of 10 ???

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    ka-Pow! Thanks for sharing. Whats the weight on that thing? My YX is heavy, the pics of the anima give me a "boat anchor" vibe.

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    LOOKS like a Honda Wave stud spaceing. Get a bigger crank and a 150R piston and you have a 190. IM guessing piston pin height is 14mm?

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    How is the engagement in the gearbox? have never had any problems with the teeth, but the gears doesn't engage enough and slip

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    Thanks for the pics, lovin the sticker!

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    Truly, first normal inside overall look. Thanks! I look forward to How-to's to finalize the D4V engine.

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    Why did you take a new motor apart? Do you make parts for this motor? Or are you a speed shop, and you port, grind cams, and so on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwapperMX View Post
    So ...... overall opinion of this new engine ?? Rating out of 10 ???
    my overall opinion is it has alot of potential but it is still a ching engine and shows all the tale tale signs of china, time will tell if my suspsions on certain things will become a reality or just over worring. casting and machineing isn't as nice as you would see on the jdm stuff. but for what you pay vs what you get i think its best china setup by far. i'm not going to give it a rating until i have beat on it a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tblumer View Post
    ka-Pow! Thanks for sharing. Whats the weight on that thing? My YX is heavy, the pics of the anima give me a "boat anchor" vibe.
    she has some weight on those hips about 47~48lbs

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    Quote Originally Posted by taz69 View Post
    LOOKS like a Honda Wave stud spaceing. Get a bigger crank and a 150R piston and you have a 190. IM guessing piston pin height is 14mm?
    haven't messed w/ many waves so i'd be lying if i said it was the same spacing. with daytonas bigger stroke crank and 150r piston it will put you over 190cc. anima 150 is 62mm x 49.5mm = 149.44mm crf 150R 66mm x 43.7mm= 149.51cc utilizing the anima's 49.5mm stroke w/ the 150r piston putting bore and stroke at 66 x 49.5= 169.35cc. i havent checked to see what daytona 190 stroke is but i'm going to guess prolly 62-62.7 which would put cc in the ball park of 213~214 w/ 150R piston.

    wrist pin is 14mm comp height is 20mm or for the pitbike community 13mm

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    Quote Originally Posted by JanssonK View Post
    How is the engagement in the gearbox? have never had any problems with the teeth, but the gears doesn't engage enough and slip
    not quite sure what your asking, how does it engage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackBeard View Post
    Thanks for the pics, lovin the sticker!
    haha gotta show some love to the forbidden one
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordo View Post
    Why did you take a new motor apart? Do you make parts for this motor? Or are you a speed shop, and you port, grind cams, and so on?
    why not take a new engine apart? i guess you'd call me a half ass speed shop. i don't advertise or do it full time but in my spare time i build engines for guys and race teams. i have had alot of guys ask me whe i could do w/ this engine. and until now i have not been able to give an honest answer cause i haven't been into one. so to answer your orginal question i tore apart to see what i'm working w/

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    Quote Originally Posted by storminnorman07 View Post
    not quite sure what your asking, how does it engage?
    I believe he is asking about the dogs on the gears. Older China stuff didn't have enough back cut or IMO the gear and dog were too soft. The dogs would round off and cause it to pop out of gear, or not engage at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by storminnorman07 View Post
    why not take a new engine apart? i guess you'd call me a half ass speed shop. i don't advertise or do it full time but in my spare time i build engines for guys and race teams. i have had alot of guys ask me whe i could do w/ this engine. and until now i have not been able to give an honest answer cause i haven't been into one. so to answer your orginal question i tore apart to see what i'm working w/
    Ahh, I see. Well knowing is half the battle !

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    Quote Originally Posted by storminnorman07 View Post
    haven't messed w/ many waves so i'd be lying if i said it was the same spacing. with daytonas bigger stroke crank and 150r piston it will put you over 190cc. anima 150 is 62mm x 49.5mm = 149.44mm crf 150R 66mm x 43.7mm= 149.51cc utilizing the anima's 49.5mm stroke w/ the 150r piston putting bore and stroke at 66 x 49.5= 169.35cc. i havent checked to see what daytona 190 stroke is but i'm going to guess prolly 62-62.7 which would put cc in the ball park of 213~214 w/ 150R piston.

    wrist pin is 14mm comp height is 20mm or for the pitbike community 13mm
    Wossner have 66,68& 70mm pistons for the 150r with 20.6mm comp height The 190 anima is 62mm stroke. Any chance of cc the head?
    Last edited by sm00th; 08-06-2012 at 06:34 PM.

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    Vertex also do a 72mm piston. With the 62mm stroke it would be just over 250cc. What is the OD of the stock sleeve?

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