SDG Speed Mini and others like it please read

[Evil_Genius]

i know there were other dead posts on it bt there wasnt enouhgh info provided so..

Can somebody please offer up more info on the sdg speed minis? Or these killer set up cheap price fiddys flooding the market...

I was thinking of snagging the sdg and pawning off the engine on ebay and starting from scratch with a fiddy engine. They common sense story i have been told is this... there is a huge market for tricked out bikes at low cost so to sell them cheap they cut allot of corners and where that can be done best is obviously with the motor.. is this true in your exp or do these hall ass and are still reliable? Is the set up over rated from a functionality standpoint? i.e. u can add after market whatever u want but if there garbage parts then it defeats the purpose. Are they much heavier then a tricked out fiddy or? How sh it are these engines? how good is the suspension compaired to say a bbr? what about replacement parts and will Kitco and other aftermarket ie ebay sold parts work on this bike? i know its allot of questions but i have a dirt track and a nice fiddy but i could easily add 4,000$ Canadian to my bike to make it as good as the apparent set up of one of these bikes! if u were trying to build a honda50 like this u would spend boat loads of cash what would u guys do? 2 cents....Any info would b so awesome! i will post a link i have to just one of the bikes i am posting about at the bottom

Cheers

Gio



the Link is



http://www.minibikeoutlet.com/_SDG+Speed+Mini.html

[PlanetMinis.com]

[minimx111]

personally i have had great experiances on the SDG. the only problem we have had is the kick starter gear. the engine hauls A$$ and is super strong. as far as I kno most after market parts will bolt right onto the SDG. As far as the frame and suspension they are both great. frame is really strong and the suspension is really heavey duty. the front end is a lil heavy, but it is worth it for forks like that. also you might need to replace the foot peg mount depending on how big you are going. As you stated you would have to spend way more money to build a bike any where close to the SDG than u would to buy it. if you just take the time to adjust a couple things it works great. Also, one thing i have noticed is that most people that slam this bike dont acually own one. Listen to the reasoning of some one that has one and not some one that rode a friends friends bike. When taking care of this bike you have to treat it more like a 125 or 250 with regular maintance and not like a 50 with every month maintance. and that is what alot of people neglect.



Anywho, thats my two cents. love it or hate its mine.

[five0addict]

dont do it! the frame is not good, the forks are not good, the shock is not good. the front is super heavy and forks are super soft, the rear is tall and stiff. they weight 25+lbs more than my bike. the motors have problems and are not much faster than a mid cost 88kit.

its a sad bike and from what my friends gone through id only reccomend it to an enemy.

[foolish]

ok here i go agine lol there great bikes for ppl that cant just go out and spend 2400 dolers ontop of the coast of the bike i have one there a great bike yes thay have there problems and its hard to say wich ones ul get some hade the tranny like me some hade the kick start problem the forks yes there soft cuz there are not tuned from the factory the shock is upside down but i think thay fixed that along with alot of othere things all the parts to fix the tranny and kick start are all updated and thay wont let it happen agine as far as the forks being to soft all u need to do is change it out with 4oz of 30wt fork oil and ur good it makes the shock also seem not as stif after this cuz it puts more wieght on it if u noe the tricks to it as far as im consered there better than a crf honda not saying i dont like them there geat bikes there the resone sdg made there bikes PS. dont lisen to fiveoaddict hes a sdg hatter just messin fiveoaddict he dont like thenm cuz thay beat him all the time lol JK

[five0addict]

thats foolish!

my 72! keeps up with those pos sdg's. if you want to race aganst other 107's youll get SMOKED by 3+hp!

[100ccsanokid]

get a bike spend 4gs in upgrades for your 50 and stop b!tchen. it is simple and easy as this. whats everyone got! honda. what started this craze. honda! who will finish this. honda. my 50 says micromacine. its the real thing!

[MpR]

Sanokid, You don't even have a honda.

[Evil_Genius]

ok a couple good comments and to clarify.. i have crotch rockets and other things that make spending 3 grand on top of the bike not quite logical. id love to grab the bbr swing arm and fork set up etc but if were being realistic not in the cards. i can sell my fiddy for $2,500 Canadian all day and have the sdg mini for 2grand Canadian ive got the 88 kit and everything else but stock springs etc etc... i was about to start tricking it out when i realized how much id have to pump into the Honda.

if the parts are interchangeable then i can sell of some of the not up to par parts as new and buy what i need... as was mentioned the engine is fast but 88cc is close etc etc im going for an overall theme as apposed to just the engine.. (Reliability) Im good with bikes in general so as long as i can get the parts (no Canadian dealers so im shipping from the states)

And a general question we’ve established that the bike is heavier but i mean a fully tricked out honda is much heavier then stock 50 obviously so how bad can it b... please continue to post up i will pay the favor forward... theres just not allot of honest opinions available except from owners of these bikes.... u guys rock!

[4U2NV]

I've had my sdg for a few months now, and I like it. If you change out the fork oil, and reverse the rear shock it makes a big difference! the bike jumps great, it feels good and is well balanced in the air. It needs a little more on the bottom end, but it pulls hard for ever on the top end. I was able to but a BBR pipe on it, (with some slight fabrications), It picked up the bottom end and strengthened the whole power band. Plus you can put the stock XR silencer in for ridin in the hood. It tops out at 50 mph and gets there quick. I would have rather got an XR and built it, but I just didnt have the money.

[4U2NV]

Oh yea the clutch is great, when you want to give it a little kick!

[Evil_Genius]

and thats basicly the delema i face now.. if i had the mone yid get the gold plated version but seeing as how i am a stroker crank away from finishing my 88cc kit and then onto suspension all stock except for the frame notch. (im not getting the stroker but u get the idea) bbr forks work out to b $1,000 canadian extended swing arm est 500$ ishock 400$ or save that money and basicly trade straight up my fiddy for the sdg and i can save 500$ to throw back into it for parts on the sdg that may need upgrading... if all of that makes sence.. are most if not all the sdg parts honda interchangeable? ie does everything mount up? and if theres something thats bogus could i not for example sell the swing arm for 200$ and buy the bbr swing arm for 400 and bolt it up and so on?

thanks alot

[minimx111]

thats foolish!

my 72! keeps up with those pos sdg's. if you want to race aganst other 107's youll get SMOKED by 3+hp!

It depends on who is on the bike. You could keep up woth some one on a 450 on your 50 if they didnt kno how to ride well. I can keep up with my friend on his SDG on my 70 but if i get on it I can kill every one. Just depends on rider capability.

[2strokin_it]

Dude this is an easy one. I just got done shopping for a pitbike and finally made a purchase. I did a lot of research before buying which is what I recommend to you. I bought a stock '04 CRF50 used for $900 (shop around, it took some patience but you can find them this cheap). I threw it on a BBR Super Pro Frame and BBR forks (and believe me, they are well worth the money). The frame could come with a lifetime warranty it is so well built. I would have shot myself in the foot if I bought that SDG I was looking at a few weeks earlier. Look at it this way. You ARE hearing a lot of bad things about SDG. The only people defending them are their owners who would look like fools if they told you they had just wasted $2,400. Do you see anyone ripping on Honda? I would buy a used Honda anyday over a brand new SDG. But it's up to you. If you are serious and want to stay in the sport long, get something that will last. If you want a quick fling.....

[Jetster220]

thats foolish!

my 72! keeps up with those pos sdg's. if you want to race aganst other 107's youll get SMOKED by 3+hp!

It depends on who is on the bike. You could keep up woth some one on a 450 on your 50 if they didnt kno how to ride well. I can keep up with my friend on his SDG on my 70 but if i get on it I can kill every one. Just depends on rider capability.

This is true, I kill guys riding 108's and bigger all the time on my 88 race head, granted I ride the livin piss outta it lol.

[five0addict]

oh yea i forgot to mention that the sdg is the hardest bike ive ever ridden, the suspension is just so unbalanced. combine that with a underpowered motor...

[jet-ski]

well......ive been looking into getting a crf50 or one of the sdg or a icon 90x. i am selling my ktm 125 since i have a crf450 and i dont ride my 125 anymore since it has no power compared to my 450. so im selling my 125 for $2900. i added it all up to build my own 50 from the ground up and it added up to $2900 kinda weird how the price of what im selling ym bike for is how much my parts add up to. well the $2900 is with buying a 110cc big bore xr50 eingine with a 4 speed manual clutch from the uk. a fast 50 como frame and swing arm, an ishock, red barron forks, and all the other odds and ends. but i saw a sdg 50 and a icon 90x in a pit race mag at the local dirt bike shop and i was like damn id save a lot of money. so i came on here to see if they were any good....and well it seems as if the only people that dont like them are the ones that dont have them. the people that actualy have them like them so they must be good. im not going to be racing it so it doesnt have to be top notch. just to mess around with when i go riding. like what they were firts made for, pit riding. so i figured if i get the icon 90x with all the money i save if any of the parts break or i dont like them i could get new ones with the money i saved. like if the front forks suck, i could get red baron forks, or the frame breaks, i could get a new one. or anything else. i would rather get the icon 90x since its cheaper and looks pretty good.

[Slappy]

I have a tricked out XR100 and have been shopping and researching "real mini's" for a while now. I agree with Jet-ski, I am not ready to put my money down yet but if I did today, it would be on an ICON90. But forget me and everyone else rambling here. Do your research, use the force, and go with what you think. You know what they say about opinions after all.

[five0addict]

and well it seems as if the only people that dont like them are the ones that dont have them. the people that actualy have them like them so they must be good

ok a few things things...

i dont own a sdg but i work on my friends when it breaks, that being said, i hate that bike. i warned him that it may look good in the shop, the motor may feel super strong, but really its literally falling apart. if he didnt take care of it it would be dead long ago. in fact he hammered on a stock 50 and the bike only bent the usual frame and forks, actually it lasted a log time, but x-factor puched him to go big and the frame was toast. seeing others ride the sdg and i know they dont know much about the problems, the bike will just turn to dust one day.

the icon 90x has a different motor and is ALOT less compatable with honda aftermarket parts than the 50x. i think the best buy is the 50x so...



in fact im done talking about these scumbag bikes on the forums, anyone want info hit me up on aim or pm me

[tracksidetx]

You should invest in the new Xtreme CR2. It has a 120cc engine, 4-speed transmission with a manual clutch, oil cooler, heavy-duty chromoly frame, 54mm conventional forks, front disc brakes, and aluminum swingarm. You get all this for only $2195, and they should be available in late December.

[jet-ski]

i dont really like the extreme bikes. they look way too cheasy.



so the icon 50x are more compatable with the honda engine parts?if they are then i would probly get that one then. that would be a big problem not being able to find parts for the engine. so i would probly get the icon 50x and get a 88cc bore up kit. if i toaste the frame that wouldn't be a problem since i know how to weld and could patch it up. it may bea little heavier when im done but it will be stronger. or i could just buy a new fast 50s frame. i have broken many bicycle frames, go-ped frames, and many other frames and patched them up and they have all worked fine afterwards. i also am very good friends with metal workers who could make me swing arms, frames, and triple clamps from scratch that would be just as good as fast 50s and bbr stuff. well my foot is broken in 5 places so im not getting the 50/riding the 50 for awhile so when i do get to ride it i will let you guys know how it goes. i know im not building one from scratch. like i said. im getting the either the sdg, icon 50x, or the icon 90x. i have awhile before i can actually ride it so it give me more time to choose.