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    Hey I was wondering if someone can tell me what a 12" front 10" rear Motard race setup would feel like?
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    Heidenau K61 3.00x12 front and 100/80x10 rear

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    with a 12 in front your going to have a slower turn in because of the bigger diameter. not to mention more rotataing weight to slow down. If you look almost all good motard bikes are 10in front and rear.

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    I didn't have any problems with turn in on my 12x12 setup at Cycles 128, I run 13/43 gearing (Heard one person refer to my rear sprocket as a pizza cutter that day) and it was still a 2nd gear track, so nice and tight.

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    Hey Kev , just try it ... Ive ridden both combos of wheel size for a 50 motard , and I am by far faster with a 12" front ... Ive never tried a 12x12 setup though .. but having that extra contact patch area up front lets you really push hard into and through the turns ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dakota569
    Hey Kev , just try it ... Ive ridden both combos of wheel size for a 50 motard , and I am by far faster with a 12" front ... Ive never tried a 12x12 setup though .. but having that extra contact patch area up front lets you really push hard into and through the turns ...


    Its Not for me D, I built my Buddy a BBR superpro framed and Marzzochi 35mil shivers with Front and Rear Discs. just wanted to know the pros and Cons Before we bought a new front hub and wheel....



    Anyone know what the Marzzochi front hub goes for?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OLDSCHOOL
    Its Not for me D, I built my Buddy a BBR superpro framed and Marzzochi 35mil shivers with Front and Rear Discs. just wanted to know the pros and Cons Before we bought a new front hub and wheel....



    Anyone know what the Marzzochi front hub goes for?




    dont think they sell just the hub...but i can check on that though as i would be interested in buying just the hubs and lacing some excels up to them instead of the sanremo rims.



    i know that the 12" complete wheel goes for $240 though. that includes everything ready to bolt on and go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FactoryMotorsports
    dont think they sell just the hub...but i can check on that though as i would be interested in buying just the hubs and lacing some excels up to them instead of the sanremo rims.



    i know that the 12" complete wheel goes for $240 though. that includes everything ready to bolt on and go.


    Want a 10" front setup Matt, for the Motard race only.
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    the 10" complete are $228 i believe.



    i just grabbed one for myself and slapped a TT91 90/90/10 on it. im thinking about sellign it and getting just the hub if available.....



    would you want to buy it? it has about 200 ft of ride time on it......and that was just running up and down the pits....



    just throwing it out there......no real need to sell it just want to build my own wheelset with all excels only.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sava
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    Welp, I'm running 12" rims, so it looks like my only option would be MC16s. What rim widths do you recommend for the 120/70 and 130/70? Also, are your tires designed to run tubeless?



    I see you mention custom sizes are possible, got a whole league of CRF70 racers up here in Maine that would kill for something to fit their 1.6" x 12" rims, and would go crazy if you came up with a good 14" tire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FactoryMotorsports
    the 10" complete are $228 i believe.



    i just grabbed one for myself and slapped a TT91 90/90/10 on it. im thinking about sellign it and getting just the hub if available.....



    would you want to buy it? it has about 200 ft of ride time on it......and that was just running up and down the pits....



    just throwing it out there......no real need to sell it just want to build my own wheelset with all excels only.....


    Is the Rim Black Matt? and is it for 35mm shivers? tell me more
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    yes black rim exactly as they come with the 35mm shivers......ill even toss in the pirelli dirt tire it comes with. but the brand new 90/90/10 dunlop TT91 is mounted up to it now. if you want.....ill include the 200mm rotor and adapter for the forks too......



    im giving Zocchi a call right now to see if i can get just the hub.



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    Dont sell it to anyone PM me the price so I can get a hold of my Buddy and then I'll have him call you...Thanks big time
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    its not quite up for sale yet......if zocchi can get me just a hub...its for sale....if they cant......im keeping it.



    but i can get more.

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    Let Mr Know asap also pm me what you'll want for it complete with rotor and spacer (no mx tire) this is motard only.



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    no luck on getting just the hub.



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    Quote Originally Posted by OLDSCHOOL
    Hey I was wondering if someone can tell me what a 12" front 10" rear Motard race setup would feel like?


    I asked this question on another forum and a pro racer said it comes down to preference and HP. He said up to about 10 HP, he'd recommend 10" wheels, anything higher, go with 12" if you can. I guess it has something to do with the power to turn a heavier 12" over the lighter 10". I would also think that a 12" wheel will give you a better ride/stability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiniMike
    I asked this question on another forum and a pro racer said it comes down to preference and HP. He said up to about 10 HP, he'd recommend 10" wheels, anything higher, go with 12" if you can. I guess it has something to do with the power to turn a heavier 12" over the lighter 10". I would also think that a 12" wheel will give you a better ride/stability.




    The Info I was looking for is A 12" front wheel and a 10" rear wheel, How does this set-up feel on the track? Because the Front wheel will be turning slower and the rear faster...Technicly. would this tend to push the front wheel?
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    Unless your sliding the rear end out, all the steering is done with the front wheel. I would think it would give a vague feeling in the front with a 12" wheel and 10" rear. Usually on sportbikes, you want more weight on the front wheel for steering traction and imput, and most people raise the rear ride height to do this, so I think using 2 same size wheels would be best. I guess you could raise the rear enough to put more weight on the 12" front, but it just wouldn't look right IMO.

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    You can easily get dialed with a 12" x 10" setup. If your running 12" up front you can raise the fork tubes dropping the front end a bit for better geometry. I think the difference is fairly negligible in the end. If you have the extra cash to burn, get a 10" front, otherwise stick with the 12" make a few adjustments and get used to it.
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