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    FAQ's about Mini SuperMoto

    Hey Moderators, can you make this a sticky. Then maybe allow a few additions to my posts. Then lock it. This is an information post. Not a place to ask questions. Thanks, Cam



    FAQ’s about Mini Super Moto;



    1. Do I need 12” rims front and rear? A: Not required but 14” tires are very hard to find.

    2. Do I have to change my 10” rims on my 50? A: No, use an 80/90-10” or a 90/90-10” tire.

    3. If I have a 12” front and 10” rear, do I have to build 2 matching rims? A: Not required but not the ideal set up. It would benefit you to have matching rims.

    4. Can I mount a 120/80-12” tire on a 1.60” x 12” rim? A: Yes but it is not a good selection. Use a 90/90-12” or a 100/90-12” tire.

    5. Will a 3.50” x 10” tire fit between the stock forks on a CRF/XR 50? A: No.

    6. Will a 120/80-12” tire fit in the swing arm of my KLX110? A: Yes. Unless you have a 15hp engine or more, you do not need a 120/80-12” rear. Use a 100/90-12” front and rear.

    7. Can I use a 2.50” x 12” rim on the rear of my Mini? A: Most mini’s will accept a rear 2.50” but it is personal preference.

    8. What is a slick versus a DOT? A: A slick is not legal for the street. A DOT has small grooves and are street legal.

    9. Are heavy duty spokes and nipples required? A: No, but the stainless steel nipples and spokes are much stronger.

    10. Where do I get Mini Super Moto parts? A: Do a “Google” search. Type in “mini road racing”.

    11. Why won’t my tire seat? A: You need a heavy duty tube. You need a small amount of soap. Surgical soap seems to work best. You may need up to 100 psi. Be careful!!!!!

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    Re: FAQ's about Mini SuperMoto

    I'd agree on most of this. Plus 2 cents



    A 3.50" X 10" BT39 fits on my 2005 CRF50 stock rim/fork, I did have to trim the rubber dust seals for this to work..... The HD forks springs with +1" fork legs are a bonus on the CRF50, and a high rise bar set-up.



    Other lubricant alternatives to seating the rim are spray vegetable oils (canola, corn, sunflower etc..) these work really well and are not going to degrade the natural rubber oils from the tire.



    Rims seem to play a part in the seating of the bead....... a proper width rim will help you out (wider vs narrower rim). A quality rim helps too.



    The Fox air shox has been the best unit for the older A style swingarms for the CRF50 clone bikes for Road racing and "motarding" on pavement/dirt tracks.



    Quality oil with frequent changes have proven to make motors/gear boxes last and perform at peak HP.



    The fastest tires most racers have used in 10" and 12" for road racing are:



    12";

    TT91 now TT92.

    BT601, currently unavailable in the US.

    Sava MC31

    Some like the Michilin Pilot sport.



    10";

    TT91/92 Dunlop

    BT39 Bridgestone

    MC0 Sava



    For pavement/dirt any of these with extra grooves cut into them hook up decent in the dirt sections. The SAVA 10" rains work great in this application.



    16" tires and 17" tires anyone? There are people using various 17" slicks on some of the bigger sized bikes, I believe most are running the Dunlop or Bridgestone soft slicks. I'm unsure of the sizes commonly used.........



    Bar end sliders vs 'Bark Busters' = personal choice. Pros and cons to both styles of protection.



    Bar height = personal prefference. Some people like lower bars vs higher bars. Motard vs Road racing is part of the equation. The size of the bike falls into this equation as well. The riders physical size as well. If you like a fully crouched GP125 position you might like clip-ons or flat bars, even clubman bars. If your a flat tracker you might like wider flatter styled bars. If your into the upright position on a "pitbike" you might like the taller "pitbike" bars.
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    Re: FAQ's about Mini SuperMoto

    Stickied, still open for posts.

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    Re: FAQ's about Mini SuperMoto

    Quote Originally Posted by Kurlon
    Stickied, still open for posts.




    Truth be told ????



    For me ..., it's the closets your gonna get to big bike road race'n with out the crazy costs .



    The crash damage costs are are minimal , that is ..., unless your Kurlon ...

    He always seem to push the envelope in this dept. ....





    How's the say'n go ???

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    Re: FAQ's about Mini SuperMoto

    Wow, I've been drive by slammed in a sticky'd FAQ thread... when are you going to be at NHMS or 106 Race Park again so I can return the favor?

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    Re: FAQ's about Mini SuperMoto

    Well .., I'm glad to see your 100% again !!!!



    Hopefully you'll get your chance before too long ..



    Money is real tight for me now since I'm try'n to put together a 110 for Rt 106 .
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    Re: FAQ's about Mini SuperMoto

    2 Questions.

    1.) I am looking to bump-up from 10" front and rear, to 12" front and rear. I have seen both 12x1.60 and 12x1.85. Which is better? I will be running the Sava tires on them, if that helps determine the outcome.

    2.) Steel or aluminum rim. I will only run on paved tracks. No offroad or jumps.



    Thanks in advance.



    Dan da man



    P.S. Cam. We met about a month ago in Elgin. I was the only adult riding a stock 50 that day. It was the one with the red/black skull graphics. You have seen my riding style, and how hard I push that lil thing. Please advise soon! Thanks.

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    Re: FAQ's about Mini SuperMoto

    I repeat, this is not a place to ask questions. Kurlon, please delete every post after #2. This is for info to cut out all the same questions that people are still asking any way. I tried to help out and people are still asking the same questions any way.......... Cam



    Lilskully, run 2.15" front and rear with the Sava's. If you have Marz, 1.85" front.....

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    Re: FAQ's about Mini SuperMoto

    are the 12 front and 12inch rear better handling for motard than a 14 inch front and 12 inch rear?

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    Re: FAQ's about Mini SuperMoto

    A 50/50 solution of simple green makes getting tires to seat a breeze. Also works great for mounting and then cleaning to remove all residue.

    60-70 psi still needed though.
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    Re: FAQ's about Mini SuperMoto

    I never noticed this thread. Windex works well for mounting tires, but dries pretty quick. Also remember a wider rim does more than a wider tire. I wish somebody would post more info on finding races. I have a bike to race with only one race a year. :/

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    Re: FAQ's about Mini SuperMoto

    DUDE....................... you must be kidding.............



    NJ MiniGP • Racing has never been so much fun!



    Come on man thats soooooooooooooooo close and off the hook
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    Re: FAQ's about Mini SuperMoto

    I wish they listed bike and gear requirements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s_10onbagz
    I wish they listed bike and gear requirements.




    Idk .., I found it pretty easy on there site ..



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    Re: FAQ's about Mini SuperMoto

    Where can I get a wider 10" rim than 1.60???

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